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Zero is coming...

Matthew
26 Nov 2016, 12:28 PM
You seem to be stumbling through this particular thought bubble of yours like a Friday night drunk Dimshit.

You have gone from an inevitable impending change that will bankrupt me personally in my lifetime to ideology for future generations.


I don't prefer that at all Dimshit. Nor have I ever said such a thing.

But it is helpful to have a practical outlook instead of donning the white K-Mart bathrobe and making a rambling video about the "Compression" and the man with the stick Dimshit.

My wife and I wanted a daughter. When our third son was born we didn't call him Sarah and dress him in skirts just because that is what we wanted did we? Because that would be stupid wouldn't it?

The irony of you wanting the majority of Australians to suffer immediate financial pain, suffering and in some cases devastation just so you can be "right" and "trade up for free" is not lost on us either Dimshit. In fact the most likely people to suffer should you get your desire of "Doomsday" are those currently aged between 15 and 35. They are the ones that would be stuck in negative equity, facing repossession, the first to lose their jobs and held out of future employment by todays 40 - 55 year olds who would need to work longer than planned to rebuild their retirement savings.

I know you think you are some kind of keyboard Robin Hood Dimshit, but you really have not thought the consequences of your desires through to the end.

Funny to watch though, keep the laughs coming ok?
Mathew, is this an admission that things are not as good in Perth as you once thought??

Could you expand on this a little :D :D :D
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Matthew
26 Nov 2016, 12:28 PM
The irony of you wanting the majority of Australians to suffer immediate financial pain, suffering and in some cases devastation just so you can be "right" and "trade up for free" is not lost on us either Dimshit.
I have no desire for a housing crash or the economic pain that it will bring to leveraged investors. I simply saw something coming and got out of the way.

Who is "us" matey?

Do you speak for others now?


Trollie
26 Nov 2016, 11:15 AM
Basic thermodynamics tells us there's no such thing as free energy.
If you can show me anywhere in the basic law of thermodynamics where it is stated that money has to be exchanged for energy, I will concede.

The single largest energy input into a wheat crop is totally free. How much does a farmer pay for the sunlight which makes the growing of wheat possible?
Matthew
26 Nov 2016, 12:28 PM
But it is helpful to have a practical outlook instead of donning the white K-Mart bathrobe and making a rambling video about the "Compression" and the man with the stick Dimshit.
You mean like spending all your spare coin at the bookies and writing an insane blog?
Edited by Jimbo, 26 Nov 2016, 03:25 PM.
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Jimbo
26 Nov 2016, 03:13 PM

If you can show me anywhere in the basic law of thermodynamics where it is stated that money has to be exchanged for energy, I will concede.
Not much of a thinker are you.

Money is exchanged for goods and services, so anywhere goods and services are exchanged money is exchanged. ergo, no free energy.
Jimbo
26 Nov 2016, 03:13 PM
The single largest energy input into a wheat crop is totally free. How much does a farmer pay for the sunlight which makes the growing of wheat possible?
But it's not the only energy input required, is it you dishonest little worm

Is the rest of it free? :re:
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Trollie
26 Nov 2016, 03:40 PM
Money is exchanged for goods and services, so anywhere goods and services are exchanged money is exchanged. ergo, no free energy.

How much does the farmer pay for the energy from the sun that he uses to grow his wheat crop?

How much do I pay for the light which exists everyday for around 12 hours that allows me to see without a torch or other artificial light source?

How much does it cost me to dry my clothes on the hills hoist?

How much do I spend on fuel when I take my Surfcat for a spin around the bay?

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But it's not the only energy input required, is it you dishonest little worm
No clinkerbreath it is not. But it is the single largest input and it is totally free. Something which you said energy could not be.
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Jimbo
26 Nov 2016, 03:56 PM
How much does the farmer pay for the energy from the sun that he uses to grow his wheat crop?

How much do I pay for the light which exists everyday for around 12 hours that allows me to see without a torch or other artificial light source?

How much does it cost me to dry my clothes on the hills hoist?

How much do I spend on fuel when I take my Surfcat for a spin around the bay?


No clinkerbreath it is not. But it is the single largest input and it is totally free. Something which you said energy could not be.
None of your strawman arguments save you from the fact there's no such thing as a free energy economy, and never will be.

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Trollie
26 Nov 2016, 04:40 PM
None of your strawman arguments save you from the fact there's no such thing as a free energy economy, and never will be.
"...and never will be" Very bold statement there dollly.

Over at CERN, some of the worlds greatest living scientists are taking us towards exactly what you claim will never happen. They may not succeed, maybe they will need to try something different, but sooner or later they will discover how to unlock the vast amounts of energy which exist in every spec of dirt on this planet.

"There is enough energy locked up in a grain of sand to boil 10 000 000 kettles and the energy equivalent of the average adult is about 7 x 1018 (7 000 000 000 000 000 000) joules of potential energy, enough to explode with the force of thirty hydrogen bombs!"

Educate yourself dolly. Stop jerking off to iron ore prices and read something clever.

Here's a start.

http://www.npl.co.uk/educate-explore/factsheets/einstein/
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Jimbo
26 Nov 2016, 05:19 PM
"...and never will be" Very bold statement there dollly.

Over at CERN, some of the worlds greatest living scientists are taking us towards exactly what you claim will never happen. They may not succeed, maybe they will need to try something different, but sooner or later they will discover how to unlock the vast amounts of energy which exist in every spec of dirt on this planet.

"There is enough energy locked up in a grain of sand to boil 10 000 000 kettles and the energy equivalent of the average adult is about 7 x 1018 (7 000 000 000 000 000 000) joules of potential energy, enough to explode with the force of thirty hydrogen bombs!"

Educate yourself dolly. Stop jerking off to iron ore prices and read something clever.

Here's a start.

http://www.npl.co.uk/educate-explore/factsheets/einstein/
Quoting people smarter than you doesn't make you smarter than me.

They have to build facilities and employ people to do the research, to commercialise it, then to operator the facilities that produce the power. That's just the start of it.

No such thing as free.
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Trollie
26 Nov 2016, 05:31 PM
Quoting people smarter than you doesn't make you smarter than me.

They have to build facilities and employ people to do the research, to commercialise it, then to operator the facilities that produce the power. That's just the start of it.

No such thing as free.
It may not need to be a facility dolly. It may simply be a device which we can buy and take home with us. It will cost us a few bob to purchase but from then on it will produce all of our energy requirements forever, for free.

Whatever form it takes, it will free us from the shackles of an oil based global economy and everything that goes with it.

We will be able to populate deserts by creating oasis, grow food anywhere.

Alongside this, automation will ultimately make daily work a thing of the past.

Ever noticed how we have more stuff now than any generation before dolly?

How we don't darn our socks or keep the fat from the joint or boil the giblets from the chicken to make soup?

How we all have cars and fly regularly, how we watch blockbusters in our lounge?

Innovation, efficiency.

But according to you, this is as far as it goes. The current system will stay as it is, with us all filling at the bowser once a week, paying through the nose to live within 40km of work, paying extortionate rents to money grubbing parasites so they can retire early in Bali.

And you label me as a doomster???
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Jimbo
26 Nov 2016, 06:00 PM
It may simply be a device which we can buy and take home with us.
So it's not free. Thanks for clearing that up.
Jimbo
26 Nov 2016, 06:00 PM
<br />But according to you,
No.
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Trollie
26 Nov 2016, 06:11 PM
So it's not free. Thanks for clearing that up.
The initial purchase will of course involve payment. You are being your usual knobhead self here dolly.

But say the device saves me paying 25 cents per KWH on grid prices and it has paid for itself after two years?

How much will my energy cost me after that two year period?

Nothing dolly.

Not a red cent.

Zero.

Free.

Free energy dolly.

Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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