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Iron ore explodes, posting biggest ever one-day gain
Topic Started: 8 Mar 2016, 11:54 AM (9,126 Views)
newjez
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createdby
13 Mar 2016, 02:07 PM
I can see your investment window is a few months. That's ok. And that Brexit is your big short. That's ok too.

I like to invest with a longer time frame. Less returns than day week month trading, but less risk as well.

Problem with your Brexit strategy is that there are too many black swans floating around. Shit could happen in between.
I really don't think a long term shorting strategy is a sensible thing to do. I'm sure if you run models over any timeframe in the last 100 years you will most often lose.

I think that's why they call it going long...
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newjez
13 Mar 2016, 05:15 PM
I really don't think a long term shorting strategy is a sensible thing to do. I'm sure if you run models over any timeframe in the last 100 years you will most often lose.

I think that's why they call it going long...
A long term strategy is viable and in fact you will find the serious money is more long term orientated.

Trends can run from weeks to months to years. Whats difficult to judge is the various phases a market goes through from top to the evential bottom. It's never as simple as straight up or straight down in most cases.

The benefit in bear markets is the moves are faster and harder than bull markets which can take a long time to build.

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Rastus2
12 Mar 2016, 03:53 PM

The child does not get to dictate the end of the lesson.

Demonstrate you are not the child by posting a chart that proves my chart does not support my claim... what was your whinge .. Otherwise, get back in the corner, put your hat on and listen instead of interrupting you naughty little troll.
I don't need to demonstrate anything to you, that's what makes me the adult.

I've set your homework, now off you go.
createdby
13 Mar 2016, 03:11 AM
Too thick for words and sentences huh?

Well here's some sounds and moving pictures for you then stupid!


Bulls have been fooled by phony Chinese "growth" and "statistics". Again.

Maybe if you post it in bigger letters and in red someone will give a shit.

Iron ore has been pushing up for a month now, it's reality just learn to deal with it
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Trollie
13 Mar 2016, 07:31 PM
I don't need to demonstrate anything to you, that's what makes me the adult.

I've set your homework, now off you go.
So after all your bitching of cherry picked chart, you are completly unable to produce one yourself... as I thought.

The student is the one who does not put up the material ... the teacher already spoon fed you a chart, and you cried like a baby it did not taste nice.

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okay, so we have established you do not have a better chart, so shut up.
Back under your bridge you silly dunce... next time, think before you whinge.. :D
Edited by Rastus2, 14 Mar 2016, 08:41 AM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Trollie
13 Mar 2016, 07:31 PM
Maybe if you post it in bigger letters and in red someone will give a shit.

Iron ore has been pushing up for a month now, it's reality just learn to deal with it
Up for a friggn month?

Typical idiot bull with short term horizon thinking.

This is China in normal times pumping smog, processing iron ore at $35 a tonne.


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This is what they want to be from April to October:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiLEGhPlJIs



To achive blue skies, they need to limit or freeze production from May to October.

That's 6 months of production they're shoving in 3 months from last month until end of April.

They're ramping it up now for show. This is what's causing the spike. Add one and one you idiot!!!
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newjez
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createdby
13 Mar 2016, 09:01 PM
Up for a friggn month?

Typical idiot bull with short term horizon thinking.

This is China in normal times pumping smog, processing iron ore at $35 a tonne.


This is what they want to be from April to October:

To achive blue skies, they need to limit or freeze production from May to October.

That's 6 months of production they're shoving in 3 months from last month until end of April.

They're ramping it up now for show. This is what's causing the spike. Add one and one you idiot!!!
So - if you are right - the price of iron ore will crash in two weeks time?

I think it may have legs till the beginning of May.

So I expect I'll sell late April if I'm right, or I may buy more early April if you are right.

I win either way.
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
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Rastus2
13 Mar 2016, 07:34 PM

The student is the one who does not put up the material
This shows your education stopped in primary school.

What do you think homework is - it's you producing material.
createdby
13 Mar 2016, 09:01 PM
Up for a friggn month?

Typical idiot bull with short term horizon thinking.

This is China in normal times pumping smog, processing iron ore at $35 a tonne.




To achive blue skies, they need to limit or freeze production from May to October.

That's 6 months of production they're shoving in 3 months from last month until end of April.

They're ramping it up now for show. This is what's causing the spike. Add one and one you idiot!!!
Maybe if you make the text bolder it'll be more correct?

China's cost for iron ore is all above $60/tonne.
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Trollie
14 Mar 2016, 01:39 PM
This shows your education stopped in primary school.

What do you think homework is - it's you producing material.

Maybe if you make the text bolder it'll be more correct?

China's cost for iron ore is all above $60/tonne.

Thanks for demonstrating how much of a pathetic troll you really are.

You make a post whinging i had cherry picked the timeframe of a chart, then spent days avoiding posting a chart yourself that fits your claimed valid timeframe.

Not only are you the dunce student, you are also a dunce troll.


The dunce student does not set homework, he gets it :re:
Edited by Rastus2, 16 Mar 2016, 07:52 AM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Man that is one hell of a 5A area international ecotourist zone!

I don't think I have seen one better.

Such a shame timmy will dack himself again over I.O. only to be smash by an over hyped flower show.


Trolley/TIMMY/pigiron about to be pushing up daisies.
Again :lol
Edited by Ex BP Golly, 16 Mar 2016, 07:38 AM.
WHAT WOULD EDDIE DO? MAAAATE!
Share a cot with Milton?
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16 Mar 2016, 07:32 AM
Man that is one hell of a 5A area international ecotourist zone!

I don't think I have seen one better.

Such a shame timmy will dack himself again over I.O. only to be smash by an over hyped flower show.


Trolley/TIMMY/pigiron about to be pushing up daisies.
Again :lol
...and the oil price, copper?
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