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Forecasts of $20/t iron ore. The response? IO now $48/t.; Iron ore recovery offers budget boon hopes
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Rastus2
28 Apr 2016, 11:06 PM
Lol

Oh, too funny... :tu:
Trollop might not of bought FMG at $10+, or even $7+, but the shit loads who did will be laughing at his furious and public, self abuse!
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Ex BP Golly
28 Apr 2016, 11:04 PM
Didn't you buy fmg at $10+
I don't own FMG shares and never have.
Rastus2
28 Apr 2016, 11:06 PM
So the charts i posted were made up rubbish ?

Tell that to the people who created them and use them.

BHP, RIo Tinto, RBA,Berkley

Oh come on, you are not even trying to look smart now... :D


Lol

Oh, too funny... :tu:
No, just the stuff you post yourself is made up. Quoting it doesn't make it yours.
Edited by Trollie, 29 Apr 2016, 09:49 AM.
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Trollie
29 Apr 2016, 09:48 AM
I don't own FMG shares and never have.

No, just the stuff you post yourself is made up. Quoting it doesn't make it yours.

I quoted the charts as showing the price of iron ore... thus, demonstrating a bear market for iron ore had existed around the 1980's for a decade.

You claim this is made up... however it was created 100% by BHP, Rio, RBA and Berkley... all I did was show the charts.


Suck it up little fat troll... you messed up and were caught out.
Edited by Rastus2, 29 Apr 2016, 11:17 AM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Ex BP Golly
28 Apr 2016, 11:04 PM
Didn't you buy fmg at $10+
No that was your other sock catweasel who bought at these prices
Rastus2
29 Apr 2016, 11:16 AM

I quoted the charts as showing the price of iron ore... thus, demonstrating a bear market for iron ore had existed around the 1980's for a decade.

You claim this is made up... however it was created 100% by BHP, Rio, RBA and Berkley... all I did was show the charts.


Suck it up little fat troll... you messed up and were caught out.
Rastus you have to acknowledge that the sale of iron ore was by long term contracts during that time and that did stabilise the price. Miners were unable to invest in the mines until they had the contracts. So prices were set at roughly the cost of production plus profit.

This is very different to today when the supply and cost of iron ore can be largely controlled by a few big corporations. Iron ore is also now speculative and hence more volatile.
Edited by skamy, 29 Apr 2016, 11:25 AM.
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Rastus2
29 Apr 2016, 11:16 AM

I quoted the charts as showing the price of iron ore... thus, demonstrating a bear market for iron ore had existed around the 1980's for a decade.

You claim this is made up... however it was created 100% by BHP, Rio, RBA and Berkley... all I did was show the charts.


Suck it up little fat troll... you messed up and were caught out.
I wasn't caught out about anything. You just keep attempting to insert strawman arguments and making rubbish statements.
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Trollie
29 Apr 2016, 12:01 PM
I wasn't caught out about anything. You just keep attempting to insert strawman arguments and making rubbish statements.

really ?

Tell me again, has Iron Ore ever had a protracted bear market prior to it's current one ?

Also tell me again, has Iron Ore price (prior to 2013) been it's actual price, or something that should be ignored since 'spot market only appeared in 2013) ?


It was your claims which evoked this entire response, which you conveniently paint as a straw man.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Rastus2
29 Apr 2016, 12:07 PM

really ?

Tell me again, has Iron Ore ever had a protracted bear market prior to it's current one ?

Also tell me again, has Iron Ore price (prior to 2013) been it's actual price, or something that should be ignored since 'spot market only appeared in 2013) ?


It was your claims which evoked this entire response, which you conveniently paint as a straw man.
I've already explained this to you multiple times, if you refuse to believe the evidence and data shown to you 3 times then a 4th won't help you.

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Trollie
29 Apr 2016, 12:14 PM
I've already explained this to you multiple times, if you refuse to believe the evidence and data shown to you 3 times then a 4th won't help you.
lol
what evidence and data did you actually show ?

All you did was post your opinion, nothing else :re:
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Rastus2
29 Apr 2016, 12:44 PM
lol
what evidence and data did you actually show ?

All you did was post your opinion, nothing else :re:
Wrong again, you're just trying to bury it in pages of tedious strawman arguments and meaningless argument.
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Trollie
29 Apr 2016, 12:55 PM
Wrong again, you're just trying to bury it in pages of tedious strawman arguments and meaningless argument.

I repeat.

what evidence and data did you actually show ?

Post it now to prove you actually supplied some evidence instead of claims and opinions.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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