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newjez
16 Jul 2016, 05:52 PM
Actually, one day we will pave roads with solar panels, and roofs. Makes perfect sense.
I'm pretty certain that CERN will come up with something groundbreaking and make all of this stuff obsolete.

The amount of energy contained in a single atom is pretty mind blowing and we are extracting only a minute proportion of that energy in a very inefficient way.

Kids today look back and laugh at 80mb hard drives but back in the late 1980's, 80mb was the stuff of the future.

If we don't blow ourselves up over the next 20 years, we will achieve unlimited free energy at some point soon.



Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Zero is coming...

Back to 2006???

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-wa-mount+lawley-121849870



newjez
16 Jul 2016, 05:52 PM
Actually, one day we will pave roads with solar panels, and roofs. Makes perfect sense.
When we have an economicalway of storing power, it will chang things for ever.
You will not park your can in a garage, you will park it in the sun.
Charge your batteries on off peak power and use the stored power all day.
Peter
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It's an amazing amount of energy. I looked it up.

How much power does the sun give us?

At any moment, the sun emits about 3.86 x 1026 watts of energy. So add 24 zeros to the end of that number, and you’ll get an idea of how unimaginably large an amount of energy that is!

Most of that energy goes off into space, but about 1.74 x 1017 watts strikes the earth. (ie: 174,000,000,000,000,000, or 174 quadrillion watts).

If there are no clouds in the way, then one square meter of the earth will receive about one kilowatt of that energy. So for the six hours in the middle of a sunny day, an area the size of a small backyard swimming pool (48 m2) will receive about 288 kilowatts of energy. That’s nearly 10 times what the average US household uses in an entire day! (In the United States, the average daily electricity use is around 30 kilowatt hours per household).
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hidflect
18 Jul 2016, 05:03 PM
It's an amazing amount of energy. I looked it up.

How much power does the sun give us?

At any moment, the sun emits about 3.86 x 1026 watts of energy. So add 24 zeros to the end of that number, and you’ll get an idea of how unimaginably large an amount of energy that is!

Most of that energy goes off into space, but about 1.74 x 1017 watts strikes the earth. (ie: 174,000,000,000,000,000, or 174 quadrillion watts).

If there are no clouds in the way, then one square meter of the earth will receive about one kilowatt of that energy. So for the six hours in the middle of a sunny day, an area the size of a small backyard swimming pool (48 m2) will receive about 288 kilowatts of energy. That’s nearly 10 times what the average US household uses in an entire day! (In the United States, the average daily electricity use is around 30 kilowatt hours per household).
Farout man.
Lithium to infinity and beyond.

Peter
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foxbat
19 Jul 2016, 01:14 AM
Farout man.
Lithium to infinity and beyond.

Peter
Lithium for the next 5-10 years, something else after that when they get it working......possibly Graphene???

Currently liking cobalt as well as lithium for medium term investments
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PICT
19 Jul 2016, 04:13 PM
Lithium for the next 5-10 years, something else after that when they get it working......possibly Graphene???

Currently liking cobalt as well as lithium for medium term investments
I've read into Lithium in the past vis a vis the viability of renewable technology and the consensus is that there isn't enough extractable Lithium on the planet to supply the quantities necessary for solar production. So an alternate source will be imperative but not before Lithium becomes the new gold.

Note: It's listed as a "myth" here but they talk only of car cell production and fail to consider the global supply of solar cells for power generation
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/myths-electic-cars-vehicles10.htm
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hidflect
19 Jul 2016, 04:43 PM
I've read into Lithium in the past vis a vis the viability of renewable technology and the consensus is that there isn't enough extractable Lithium on the planet to supply the quantities necessary for solar production. So an alternate source will be imperative but not before Lithium becomes the new gold.

Note: It's listed as a "myth" here but they talk only of car cell production and fail to consider the global supply of solar cells for power generation
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/myths-electic-cars-vehicles10.htm
Lithium is plentiful, just more than 90% of it is in micas and very expensive to extract. A graphene battery would be the ultimate though. Plenty of carbon around.

hidflect
18 Jul 2016, 05:03 PM
It's an amazing amount of energy. I looked it up.

How much power does the sun give us?

At any moment, the sun emits about 3.86 x 1026 watts of energy. So add 24 zeros to the end of that number, and you’ll get an idea of how unimaginably large an amount of energy that is!

Most of that energy goes off into space, but about 1.74 x 1017 watts strikes the earth. (ie: 174,000,000,000,000,000, or 174 quadrillion watts).

If there are no clouds in the way, then one square meter of the earth will receive about one kilowatt of that energy. So for the six hours in the middle of a sunny day, an area the size of a small backyard swimming pool (48 m2) will receive about 288 kilowatts of energy. That’s nearly 10 times what the average US household uses in an entire day! (In the United States, the average daily electricity use is around 30 kilowatt hours per household).
Well yes, most PV single junction cells are only 28% efficient and they have a large embedded energy to actually make them. But it is certainly doable. Especially if China decides to subsidise production of PV to create industries to employ people.

The idea of people generating their own cheap power is not very appealing to the rich and powerful though. They control people by controlling the options. Disconnecting from the grid gives people options.
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Zero is coming...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/hamptons-housing-market-has-crashed-luxury-home-sales-drop-half-prices-plunge
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Jon Snow
19 Jul 2016, 10:37 PM
A graphene battery would be the ultimate though. Plenty of carbon around.
Graphene isn't just for batteries it can make near enough everything in the world work better, run more efficient, be cheaper and last longer. Its something i'm doing a lot of research on and keeping a very close eye on.

Silver (physical and paper) is my long term play, its used in so many things as its such an amazing metal, plus it's running out.
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16 Jul 2016, 10:26 PM
Back to 2006???

http://www.realestate.com.au/property-unit-wa-mount+lawley-121849870




When we have an economicalway of storing power, it will chang things for ever.
You will not park your can in a garage, you will park it in the sun.
Charge your batteries on off peak power and use the stored power all day.
Peter
Have a friend who has a large property in bindoon. They lost power during the fires couple of years ago. I said you would have been right with your solar panels? He said not without battery storage. One day soon.
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
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