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David Llewellyn-Smith of Macrobusiness writes Wikipedia page about himself, breaches Wiki guidelines; Also claims Australian Property Bubble began in 1991 (or earlier), when he was 24 years old.
Topic Started: 25 Sep 2015, 05:19 PM (6,026 Views)
ThePauk
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peter fraser
27 Sep 2015, 10:34 PM
Paul people are entitled to anonymity. You were outed and you weren't too happy about it at the time.
That shouldn't have happened to you but it did, but it doesn't make you more ethical that someone who hasn't been outed, and it doesn't mean that every anonymous blogger is a troll.
Peter, I was not outed at all. I was signed up at credit cruch as Pauk Collins and made it very clear initially that it was a typo.

http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/index.php?/topic/7485-declining-populations/?hl=pauk#entry121349
http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/index.php?/topic/2091-if-no-oz-housing-correction-leaving/page-5#entry112549

Pictures of my house were posted as I made it clear who and where I lived.
You were part of that trolling as I recall Peter, as we have discussed before, you can not remember pointing me to the troll forum where my details were discussed. That was odd indeed as have been other issues. In short I remain suspect of your intent at times as I am entitled to do.

Sure people can remain anonymous, however that does not come with having any integrity at all. In fact IMO, if a poster chooses to remain anonymous, they relinquish any 'integrity' they may or may not have. Herbs is a easy case for this. His anonymous words mean zero.
Edited by ThePauk, 27 Sep 2015, 10:55 PM.
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peter fraser
27 Sep 2015, 10:34 PM
Paul people are entitled to anonymity. You were outed and you weren't too happy about it at the time.
That shouldn't have happened to you but it did, but it doesn't make you more ethical that someone who hasn't been outed, and it doesn't mean that every anonymous blogger is a troll.
He came onto Bubblepedia and took over whole threads again and again and again crying and whinging and moaning about how he'd been 'outed' - Fucking unrelenting - Crying and whinging and bitching - Endlessly! (I'd pretty much forgotten about it - Until recent stuff started reminding me ... :) )

A full on nutter then and a full on nutter now - Though what's been beaten back into his box just a little bit by life to have learned to appear to not be quite so OVERTLY a full-on nutter - But STILL a full-on nutter! (What's worked on 'perfecting' his 'cognitive processes' - :lol )


As I said to Stupid - You made your bed - Lie in it ... Because in your case, you MOST assuredly DESERVE it.

Fuck you are a duplicitous piece of head fucked shit Paul.


With that not being abuse - Just statements of fact.
Edited by herbie, 27 Sep 2015, 10:59 PM.
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ThePauk
27 Sep 2015, 10:36 PM
Peter, I was not outed at all. I was signed up at credit cruch as Pauk Collins and made it very clear initially that it was a typo.
http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/index.php?/topic/7485-declining-populations/?hl=pauk#entry121349
Pictures of my house were posted as I made it clear who and where I lived.
You were part of that trolling as I recall Peter, as we have discussed before, you can not remember pointing me to the troll forum where my details were discussed. That was odd indeed as have been other issues. In short I remain suspect of your intent at times as I am entitled to do.

Sure people can remain anonymous, however that does not come with having any integrity at all. In fact IMO, if a poster chooses to remain anonymous, they relinquish any 'integrity' they may or may not have. Herbs is a easy case for this. His anonymous words mean zero.
I wasn't part of those who gave you a hard time then, in fact you used to PM me and complain about how you were being treated.

You're trying to rewrite history Paul.
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herbie
27 Sep 2015, 10:48 PM
He came onto Bubblepedia and took over whole threads again and again and again crying and whinging and moaning about how he'd been 'outed' - Fucking unrelenting - Crying and whinging and bitching - Endlessly! (I'd pretty much forgotten about it - Until recent stuff started reminding me ... :) )

A full on nutter then and a full on nutter now - Though what's been beaten back into his box just a little bit by life to have learned to appear to not be quite so OVERTLY a full-on nutter - But STILL a full-on nutter! (What's worked on 'perfecting' his 'cognitive processes' - :lol )


As I said to Stupid - You made your bed - Lie in it ... Because in your case, you MOST assuredly DESERVE it.

Fuck you are a duplicitous piece of shit Paul.
More meaningless abuse. So be it.

"'Pauk Collins', on 05 Sept 2010 - 11:29, said:

Whithout costing the in and out costs, I rent for $25k per year and most likely a $650k property that I live in will lose approx $100k over the next two years.
You do the math..."

'Pauk Collins', on 06 Sept 2010 - 06:53, said:

$650k as I have rpdata and pds data. Also recent sales in my area are well below anything bought after 2007. Some have lost half on vacant land beside the beach. Mount Coolum. The boardwalk. Look it up.

http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/index.php?/topic/2091-if-no-oz-housing-correction-leaving/page-6#entry112786

From my early credit crunch posts where I went on to point out where I lived.

Now, who to believe an anonymous poster or the facts?

Paul Collins
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peter fraser
27 Sep 2015, 10:57 PM
I wasn't part of those who gave you a hard time then, in fact you used to PM me and complain about how you were being treated.

You're trying to rewrite history Paul.
Not saying we did not message each other. We did and you pointed me to the troll forum where they were discussing me and what action they intended to take. You were warning me and now I just view that as suspicious. Probably as you can no longer 'recall' that even happening. Odd.
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ThePauk
27 Sep 2015, 10:58 PM
More meaningless abuse. So be it.

"'Pauk Collins', on 05 Sept 2010 - 11:29, said:

Whithout costing the in and out costs, I rent for $25k per year and most likely a $650k property that I live in will lose approx $100k over the next two years.
You do the math..."

'Pauk Collins', on 06 Sept 2010 - 06:53, said:

$650k as I have rpdata and pds data. Also recent sales in my area are well below anything bought after 2007. Some have lost half on vacant land beside the beach. Mount Coolum. The boardwalk. Look it up.

http://www.creditcrunch.co.uk/index.php?/topic/2091-if-no-oz-housing-correction-leaving/page-6#entry112786

From my early credit crunch posts where I went on to point out where I lived.

Now, who to believe an anonymous poster or the facts?

Paul Collins
Coolum Beach

Not saying we did not message each other. We did and you pointed me to the troll forum where they were discussing me and what action they intended to take. You were warning me and now I just view that as suspicious. Probably as you can no longer 'recall' that even happening. Odd.
I didn't agree with the way you were treated, especially the personal stuff with a picture that included Mt Coolum as I recall, which I recognised.
Apart from that I don't recall everything that everyone wrote, most of it was childish drivel and I don't store that as information in my mind, I have better things to dwell on.
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peter fraser
27 Sep 2015, 10:57 PM
I wasn't part of those who gave you a hard time then, in fact you used to PM me and complain about how you were being treated.

You're trying to rewrite history Paul.
I wasn't one of those who gave him a hard time then either - I fucking TOLERATED the whinging fucking worthless whining fool - To the limits of my tolerance which what with him being a fellow poor supposedly beat up ole bear 'n me being a mod on a bear site were pretty effing high - Well were pretty high towards the likes of him - With a hard luck story to tell 'n all - Except when he got a bit smart arse re a lady commenter.

But anyway fuck, talk about cry - I think he even started threads specifically for him to cry on maybe? As well as just bombarding other threads incessantly with his crying!

But I WAS BADLY MISTAKEN - I ERRED!

Edited by herbie, 27 Sep 2015, 11:17 PM.
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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27 Sep 2015, 11:16 PM
I wasn't one of those who gave him a hard time then either - I fucking TOLERATED the whinging fucking worthless whining fool - To the limits of my tolerance which what with him being a fellow poor supposedly beat up ole bear 'n me being a mod on a bear site were pretty effing high - Well were pretty high towards the likes of him - With a hard luck story to tell 'n all - Except when he got a bit smart arse re a lady commenter.

But anyway fuck, talk about cry - I think he even started threads specifically for him to cry on maybe? As well as just bombarding other threads incessantly with his crying!

But I WAS BADLY MISTAKEN - I ERRED!
Poor Herbie..... an anonymous nothing.
Can you explain to me exactly what is a 'duplicitous piece of head fucked shit Paul"?
Edited by ThePauk, 27 Sep 2015, 11:33 PM.
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ThePauk
27 Sep 2015, 11:22 PM
Poor Herbie..... an anonymous nothing.
Pop your residential address up here and your mobile and home phones and email addresses and you won't be anonymous either. If your stated LACK of anonymity is such a BIG deal to you.

But FFS please don't really Paul - Just go 'n seek professional medical help ...
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peter fraser
27 Sep 2015, 09:41 PM
In Australia the bubble commenced when WW2 rent and house price controls were lifted and our world was reborn in a copy of the USA economy. That was 1950 on memory.

It won't stop in our lifetime no matter what arguments are proposed by DLS or anyone else.
There was a boost with post war immigration I grant you, but the significant increases started after Paul Keatings legendary exemplary :lol socialist reforms :lol

It was like.... They foretold the Eddie era of Labor politics!


herbie
27 Sep 2015, 11:36 PM
Pop your residential address up here and your mobile and home phones and email addresses and you won't be anonymous either. If your stated LACK of anonymity is such a BIG deal to you.

But FFS please don't really Paul - Just go 'n seek professional medical help ...
I'm getting worried about Paulk.

Next thing, she will be asking about your dress size Herbie.
Edited by Ex BP Golly, 28 Sep 2015, 01:50 AM.
WHAT WOULD EDDIE DO? MAAAATE!
Share a cot with Milton?
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28 Sep 2015, 01:48 AM
There was a boost with post war immigration I grant you, but the significant increases started after Paul Keatings legendary exemplary :lol socialist reforms :lol

It was like.... They foretold the Eddie era of Labor politics!



I'm getting worried about Paulk.

Next thing, she will be asking about your dress size Herbie.
It was before post war immigration really kicked in. In 1950 the price of a median house in Sydney rose from $2400 to $5250 which is a jump of 119% in just 12 months. Imagine what a fuss that would have if it happened now. Yes it was a once off as the wartime controls came off, but wages didn't jump by 119%.

Check it out for yourself - page 58 here - http://www.apialliance.com.au/articles/Long%20Term%20Housing%20Prices%20in%20Australia%20-%20Stapleton%20UNSW.pdf

By contrast it took 63 years from 1880 to 1943 for Sydney house prices to double pre WW2.

From 1950 to 1960 prices rose from $5250 to $9500 (81%)
from 1960 to 1970 prices rose from $9500 to $17,750 (87%)
from 1970 to 1980 prices rose from $17,750 to $68,160 (284%)
from 1980 to 1990 prices rose from $68,160 to $185,750 (173%)
from 1990 to 2000 prices rose from $185,750 to $293,930 (58%)

Yes the rate of inflation was very high during the 70's and 80's due to OPEC induced inflation, but apart from that do you see a constant theme here?
Post Keating with the independence of the RBA they did get inflation under control so the price rises slowed, but the theme was ever upward. The rate of price increases is much slower now than it was in 4 of the 5 decades of the last half of the 20th century.

The macro theme of house prices is obvious, driven gradually upwards because the RBA target an inflation rate. They will do anything to fight against deflation and ensure we have inflation. Anyone betting on long term house price declines is betting against the house, and you know how that ends.

BTW Herbie wears a size 8 and is a sight to behold in high heels.
Edited by peter fraser, 28 Sep 2015, 09:19 AM.
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