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The Ageing Public Servants
Topic Started: 19 Sep 2015, 11:43 AM (4,414 Views)
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ThePauk
21 Sep 2015, 10:45 AM
Ok, so you disagree with Peter as his view is the FF has noting to do with the PS Supers. Got it.
Where did he state that?

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stubby
21 Sep 2015, 10:53 AM
Where did he state that?

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Peter stated in this thread that...
"Governments never fund liabilities that are due well into the future, in fact they usually fund them as they fall due."
"You do know that governments never fund future superannuation liabilities for the public service, in fact all superannuation funds work that way."
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21 Sep 2015, 11:06 AM
Peter stated in this thread that...
"Governments never fund liabilities that are due well into the future, in fact they usually fund them as they fall due."
"You do know that governments never fund future superannuation liabilities for the public service, in fact all superannuation funds work that way."
Try again, Pauk. Where did he state that the Future Fund "has noting [sic] to do with the PS Supers"?

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20 Sep 2015, 11:50 PM


Hmmm - Anyway ... The King is subject to the Law? Well Yes; But not really if 'He' has the ability to change the Law hey?
It really took off when Bob Carr came to power, but most recently occurred under our new (and I'm told incredibly good looking) Premier (Mike Baird) when he passed legislation confirming as legal, all the illegal decisions handed down by ICAC.


Instead of pulling his many wiggling fingers out and making ICAC do their job, he went the cheap lazy way.

This country really is very fucked when our 'leaders' behave like this.
stubby
21 Sep 2015, 11:12 AM
Try again, Pauk. Where did he state that the Future Fund "has noting [sic] to do with the PS Supers"?

:lol :lol :lol
This is what happens if you stand still when surrounded by socks Paulk.

You gotta keep moving those feet buddy!
Edited by Ex BP Golly, 21 Sep 2015, 12:02 PM.
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Ex BP Golly
21 Sep 2015, 11:49 AM
This is what happens if you stand still when surrounded by socks Paulk.

You gotta keep moving those feet buddy!
No sock here, dude.

I think Peter went too far in what he *did* say. But he didn't, in fact, make the statement Pauk has attributed to him.

Pauk just made that up.

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21 Sep 2015, 11:49 AM

This is what happens if you stand still when surrounded by socks Paulk.

You gotta keep moving those feet buddy!
It is just a jump to the left.....
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ThePauk
21 Sep 2015, 01:01 PM
It is just a jump to the left.....
Try again, Pauk. Where did Peter state that the Future Fund "has noting [sic] to do with the PS Supers"?

Or are you admitting that you just made that up?

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stubby
21 Sep 2015, 12:33 PM
No sock here, dude.

I think Peter went too far in what he *did* say. But he didn't, in fact, make the statement Pauk has attributed to him.

Pauk just made that up.

:lol :lol :lol
Paulk simply paraphrased him. And rightly so.

He did, in more words than necessary say " the future fund isn't to pay for public servants retirement".

You honestly saying you didn't see Peter argue that?
Edited by Ex BP Golly, 21 Sep 2015, 01:23 PM.
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19 Sep 2015, 08:42 PM
Good to see you out from under your rock.
So is the trend up or down since 2011?

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Anti-aged? You really a trollie Peter...
Peter
1. Is the UE trend up or down over the last few years?
2. Is the FF setup to cover some of the costs of the PS Super or not?
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21 Sep 2015, 01:22 PM
Paulk simply paraphrased him. And rightly so.

He did, in more words than necessary say " the future fund isn't to pay for public servants retirement".

You honestly saying you didn't see Peter argue that?

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"Governments never fund liabilities that are due well into the future, in fact they usually fund them as they fall due." (Peter)
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"Ok, so you disagree with Peter as his view is the FF has noting to do with the PS Supers." (Pauk)


So Pauk's pseudo-quote is what passes for "paraphrasing" now, is it? :lol :lol :lol

The "never" in Peter's *actual* quote is OTT in this context, but "usually" is quite correct, for OECD (and Australian) governments in the postwar era. So one can take the overall sentence either way, and I do think that Peter was guilty of being imprecise, as the sentence is contradictory in its two parts.

But I rather doubt Peter was actually unaware/mistaken about the nature of the Future Fund mandate. And Pauk has failed to come up with an actual statement of Peter's that demonstrates that he was.
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