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We are anticipating a massive GFC by mid next year
Topic Started: 8 Sep 2015, 05:09 PM (3,707 Views)
lulldapull
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2015-global-housing-market-crash-property-prices-plummet-worldwide/5474123

Global house prices are teetering on the brink.
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This will be a bond crisis no doubt. Sovereign bonds or derivatives will do the system in.

It's gonna be bad because bunds and gilts and treasuries underpin the value of everything.

When the value of everything becomes zero (ZIRP) or negative (NIRP), the whole system breaks down.

Something has to underpin the value of everything. Relative values wasn't always the rule. It was the exception. Like the period after WW2 when cities were leveled, IR was ZIRP. But that makes sense because destroyed cities have no values or are negative even. It doesn't make sense at this point in time though for the value of civilization to be negative or zero.

Historically, 6% give or take was the value of the thing from which everything else was valued.

It's either bonds or derivatives. Or one before the other.
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/its-official-china-confirms-it-has-begun-liquidating-treasuries-warns-washington/5472492
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8 Sep 2015, 10:12 PM
This will be a bond crisis no doubt. Sovereign bonds or derivatives will do the system in.

It's gonna be bad because bunds and gilts and treasuries underpin the value of everything.

When the value of everything becomes zero (ZIRP) or negative (NIRP), the whole system breaks down.

Something has to underpin the value of everything. Relative values wasn't always the rule. It was the exception. Like the period after WW2 when cities were leveled, IR was ZIRP. But that makes sense because destroyed cities have no values or are negative even. It doesn't make sense at this point in time though for the value of civilization to be negative or zero.

Historically, 6% give or take was the value of the thing from which everything else was valued.

It's either bonds or derivatives. Or one before the other.
Here's a good one Created:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-derivatives-1-5-quadrillion-time-bomb/5464666

It's goin assplode mate............
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8 Sep 2015, 06:37 PM
I don't believe have a real fear that Real Estate Prices in Australia will crash.
Specifically I'm shitting myself at the thought that don't believe Sydney and Melbourne prices will crash. There is nothing everything to suggest that they will as interest rates will stay low for a long time to come only for as long as the U.S does, which isn't very long.

2016 will be a steady year for these two cities the year I declare bankruptcy with prices moderating collapsing at 4-5% growth on average per month.

Whoa, I thought I was bearish - you need to take a cold shower dude!
"It were not best that we should all think alike; it is difference of opinion that makes horse races." - Mark Twain on why he avoids discussing house prices over at MacroBusiness.
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bhwuwahahaha........... :lol

shit you cracked me up John........... :lol

good one.
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lulldapull
8 Sep 2015, 10:31 PM
bhwuwahahaha........... :lol

shit you cracked me up John........... :lol

good one. Now let me stick my finger in your bum.
:lol
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lulldapull
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timmy, you back from your surveying job?

How's mining up in the pilbara? or was it karatha? :lol

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I'm not sure what the trigger for a global crash will be, which isn't to say it won't happen.
A severe downturn in Australia is much more likely over this time period.

The global economy's main problem is high debt, deflation and inequality.
With improving technology and plenty of labour resources there really should be no problem globally. It's just that every fucker wants to be rich that's the problem.
If we aim to live sustainably and sensibly there might be a future.
Only a rat can win a rat race.

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8 Sep 2015, 09:49 PM
You are wrong, the bears saw the GFC coming and a lot went out of shares in their super and others bought gold which has been a great play.
We bears just cruse along now, when the markets tank like they began to last week it means nothing to us but the likes of you must have been consumed with fear, so consumed in fact that you couldn't even come on this forum and discuss it.

Where have all the Bulls been for the last week eh? You're only coming out of hiding now the US has had a 3 day weekend.
Did you even know it was a long weekend over there? Or did you just assume the markets are all fixed now :lol
Made a small fortune during the last GFC. Bit slow getting into bonds, but made heaps on shares. No brainer. Dump to cash wait, buy sharees., wait.

I expect to do the same this time. Guessing the ftse100 will be closer to 5000 than 6000 by Christmas. It won't, but anything below 6000 is a bonus. Money to be made, just by waiting for the bleeding obvious. But there will still be those who didn't see it coming.
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
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Matthew
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9 Sep 2015, 12:20 AM
No brainer. Dump to cash wait, buy sharees., wait.
You missed a bit dipshit.

It goes Dump to cash - pay brokerage - pay CGT - forgo dividends - buy shares - pay brokerage - wait.

There is certainly money to be made on the way down, but the smart strategy is not necessarily to sell, wait / hope, buy. The smart strategy is usually hold, accumulate, cost average down, grow wealth.

But of course you knew that hey Jim-sock. (see what I did there.....)
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