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The Great Culling of IT Workers has Begun
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The Great Culling of IT Workers has Begun


You truly have no idea, do you? So Oracle has a big fat advert for their Cloud Service and you somehow think that there will be this mass replacement of IP workers?
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Cloud computing's real creative destruction may be the IT workforce

Few disagree that cloud computing will be disruptive to industries, enterprise technology and the way we conduct businesses. The disruption will extend to the workforce.

Cloud computing, which amounts to be the industrialization of enterprise technology infrastructure, will bring a lot of advantages coupled with a lot of lost jobs.

Few disagree that cloud computing will be disruptive to industries, enterprise technology and the way we conduct businesses. The disruption will extend to the workforce.

In other words, humans will be virtualized just like servers are. The upshot from cloud computing is that companies will need fewer data centers. People run data centers. Those jobs are likely to simply disappear.

Johan Jacobs and Ken Brant, two Gartner analysts, made the cloud computing-jobs connection last week at the Gartner Symposium in Orlando. The presentation was categorized as "maverick" in that it may not happen in the allotted time frame. Jacobs and Brant argued by 2020 demand for IT staff dedicated to supporting data centers will collapse.

"The long-run value proposition of IT is not to support the human workforce – it is to replace it," wrote Gartner in its presentation. In other words, any job loss related to offshore outsourcing may look like a walk in the park once cloud computing gets rolling.

The rough argument goes like this:

Computing will be outsourced to the cloud and become an IT utility.
Business processes will be outsourced to software. That outcome will hit all economies---especially emerging ones like India that now dominate technology outsourcing.
As the data center is virtualized the need for people to maintain that infrastructure will go away. In addition, all the people in sales and services linked to building and designing data centers will also lose jobs. When there's less technology infrastructure to support jobs will disappear.
Some of those workers will reinvent themselves and find more opportunities. Others will never match those previous positions. Many IT workers will face hollowed out job prospects just like factory workers did as the U.S. manufacturing base disappeared.

This cloud computing-job connection is just a whisper today. But a few executives I talked to see an offshore outsourcing backlash as a possibility for cloud computing.

If Gartner's post-human industry theory, which dictates that intelligent machines will drive the economy more than people, pans out the economic implications will be huge. There is no need for a human-machine singularity to impact career prospects. Creative destruction looks great on the whiteboard, but there is a human cost.
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Black Panther
30 Aug 2015, 01:05 PM
Cloud computing's real creative destruction may be the IT workforce

Few disagree that cloud computing will be disruptive to industries, enterprise technology and the way we conduct businesses. The disruption will extend to the workforce.

Cloud computing, which amounts to be the industrialization of enterprise technology infrastructure, will bring a lot of advantages coupled with a lot of lost jobs.

Few disagree that cloud computing will be disruptive to industries, enterprise technology and the way we conduct businesses. The disruption will extend to the workforce.

In other words, humans will be virtualized just like servers are. The upshot from cloud computing is that companies will need fewer data centers. People run data centers. Those jobs are likely to simply disappear.

Johan Jacobs and Ken Brant, two Gartner analysts, made the cloud computing-jobs connection last week at the Gartner Symposium in Orlando. The presentation was categorized as "maverick" in that it may not happen in the allotted time frame. Jacobs and Brant argued by 2020 demand for IT staff dedicated to supporting data centers will collapse.

"The long-run value proposition of IT is not to support the human workforce – it is to replace it," wrote Gartner in its presentation. In other words, any job loss related to offshore outsourcing may look like a walk in the park once cloud computing gets rolling.

The rough argument goes like this:

Computing will be outsourced to the cloud and become an IT utility.
Business processes will be outsourced to software. That outcome will hit all economies---especially emerging ones like India that now dominate technology outsourcing.
As the data center is virtualized the need for people to maintain that infrastructure will go away. In addition, all the people in sales and services linked to building and designing data centers will also lose jobs. When there's less technology infrastructure to support jobs will disappear.
Some of those workers will reinvent themselves and find more opportunities. Others will never match those previous positions. Many IT workers will face hollowed out job prospects just like factory workers did as the U.S. manufacturing base disappeared.

This cloud computing-job connection is just a whisper today. But a few executives I talked to see an offshore outsourcing backlash as a possibility for cloud computing.

If Gartner's post-human industry theory, which dictates that intelligent machines will drive the economy more than people, pans out the economic implications will be huge. There is no need for a human-machine singularity to impact career prospects. Creative destruction looks great on the whiteboard, but there is a human cost.
You talking dbas or bi?

(Didn't bother to click the link, not impressed with oracle so far)
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newjez
30 Aug 2015, 03:07 PM
You talking dbas or bi?

(Didn't bother to click the link, not impressed with oracle so far)
I have idea about dbas or Bi, but panther is around mid 60's chasing the dream....

He's an old fart with one, or best, two IPs...
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30 Aug 2015, 03:43 PM
I have idea about dbas or Bi, but panther is around mid 60's chasing the dream....

He's an old fart with one, or best, two IPs...
Not that old Zap. I will be voluntarily retiring in the next decade so I can get my super.

I have half a million in Super which I will take soon as I turn 60 and then work part time until the pension kicks in at 67.

The part work will not be IT, but aimed at small and medium size companies that cant go to the cloud or offshore.

Now piss off back to Simple and Sustainable with the other inbreds. :lol
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30 Aug 2015, 12:51 PM


You truly have no idea, do you? So Oracle has a big fat advert for their Cloud Service and you somehow think that there will be this mass replacement of IP workers?
You sound nervous
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30 Aug 2015, 03:50 PM
Not that old Zap. I will be voluntarily retiring in the next decade so I can get my super.

I have half a million in Super which I will take soon as I turn 60 and then work part time until the pension kicks in at 67.

The part work will not be IT, but aimed at small and medium size companies that cant go to the cloud or offshore.

Now piss off back to Simple and Sustainable with the other inbreds. :lol
You know that you like the dancing queen.

Do you want me to reveal all? You are the dancing queen. Young and sweet, only 17..
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Trollie
30 Aug 2015, 04:03 PM
You sound nervous
He is. He's shitting his pants.

Managing a team of Analyst Programmers I see this denial all the time.


zaph
30 Aug 2015, 04:07 PM
You know that you like the dancing queen.

Do you want me to reveal all? You are the dancing queen. Young and sweet, only 17..
Thanks Zaph. But lets face it, IT is done as a career.

It was good from the late 1970's to 2000, but then it imploded.

Larry is pushing the envelope, but he has enough clout to push his agenda.

IT is over as a career for any sane person.



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30 Aug 2015, 04:09 PM
Thanks Zaph. But lets face it, IT is done as a career.

It was good from the late 1970's to 2000, but then it imploded.

Larry is pushing the envelope, but he has enough clout to push his agenda.

IT is over as a career for any sane person.


You've done well then. You're in IT, so just as well your career has done well recently.

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There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, Fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, Fernando
Though we never thought that we could lose
There's no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, Fernando

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, Fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, Fernando
Though we never thought that we could lose
There's no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, Fernando
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