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Greek referendum 5th July 2015
YES - Greece accept the bailout package 9 (47.4%)
NO - Greece does not accept the bailout package 10 (52.6%)
Total Votes: 19
Greek referendum 5th July 2015; Which way will the people vote?
Topic Started: 1 Jul 2015, 11:00 PM (3,851 Views)
Gossamer
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Some polls are indicating the NO vote is ahead.

http://www.newsweek.com/no-vote-lead-greece-polls-show-348954
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Gossamer
1 Jul 2015, 11:00 PM
Some polls are indicating the NO vote is ahead.

http://www.newsweek.com/no-vote-lead-greece-polls-show-348954
I would have thought the no vote would win, however there are a few days for closed banks to instill the desired fear to turn it around.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
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I think people's votes are manipulated by fear. I think they will vote Yes. I'm still not sure what the implications of that are.

At least that's how I viewed the Scottish referendum. I imagine this will be the same. Heart says No, Head says Yes.

It would be nice if we all had PM's who would do a Love Actually moment. In theory at least. Of course the reality is different.
Edited by newjez, 2 Jul 2015, 02:00 AM.
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newjez
2 Jul 2015, 01:50 AM
I think people's votes are manipulated by fear. I think they will vote Yes. I'm still not sure what the implications of that are.

People are only frightened of change when everything is ticking along nicely.

The Scots voted no because things were alright as they were. Interesting that the strong yes vote was restricted to the impoverished parts of Glasgow and other major cities.

The Greeks have already stated their intent by voting for the current government. When things are shit, people take the extreme choice.

The Greeks have to choose between more of the same (which is shit) or a radical change that may turn out shit or may just pay off and end their misery.

I predict a rejection of the bailout. By a landslide.

I normally have a currency play for this type of thing, but I will be keeping my money in my pocket this time.
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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2 Jul 2015, 05:52 AM
People are only frightened of change when everything is ticking along nicely.

The Scots voted no because things were alright as they were. Interesting that the strong yes vote was restricted to the impoverished parts of Glasgow and other major cities.

The Greeks have already stated their intent by voting for the current government. When things are shit, people take the extreme choice.

The Greeks have to choose between more of the same (which is shit) or a radical change that may turn out shit or may just pay off and end their misery.

I predict a rejection of the bailout. By a landslide.

I normally have a currency play for this type of thing, but I will be keeping my money in my pocket this time.
I wouldn't be totally shocked if it was no, but I would be if it was a landslide. Whatever the vote, I would think it close. Not exactly sure what a no vote means either.
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newjez
2 Jul 2015, 06:23 AM
I wouldn't be totally shocked if it was no, but I would be if it was a landslide. Whatever the vote, I would think it close. Not exactly sure what a no vote means either.
A no vote is two fingers up to Europe and especially Germany.

I've been to Greece quite a few times and they really do hate the Germans. I back packed around Greece in the 80's for six months and ended up in Ag Nic in Crete. They really despised the Germans there. The place was full of German tourists and the locals would piss in their beer, overcharge them for everything and wipe their arses on their pitta bread.

I was traveling on an Australian passport and I was treated like a god (no shit).

Don't underestimate the angst of a group of voters who almost without exception, have had a member of their family disposed of by a Nazi death squad.
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Jimbo
2 Jul 2015, 07:36 AM
A no vote is two fingers up to Europe and especially Germany.

I've been to Greece quite a few times and they really do hate the Germans. I back packed around Greece in the 80's for six months and ended up in Ag Nic in Crete. They really despised the Germans there. The place was full of German tourists and the locals would piss in their beer, overcharge them for everything and wipe their arses on their pitta bread.

I was traveling on an Australian passport and I was treated like a god (no shit).

Don't underestimate the angst of a group of voters who almost without exception, have had a member of their family disposed of by a Nazi death squad.
Actually deep down most of Europe don't like or trust Germany.
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2 Jul 2015, 08:15 AM
Actually deep down most of Europe don't like or trust Germany.
I have no dislike of the German people and I find them to be much like anybody else.

That is the lesson that we all need to take from history. It is within us all to be murderous, sadistic killers just as much as we can all be charitable and caring.

It is convenient for the rest of us to label Germans, Japanese and ISIS militants as the bad guys and consider ourselves to be above them, but we are all the bad guys given the right (or wrong) circumstances.

Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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Voted Yes, They will accept. They won't like accepting it. I'd expect the fallout to include a new government.
There are some people who seem angry and continuously look for conflict.
Walk away, the battle they are fighting isn't with you, it's with themselves.

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peter fraser
2 Jul 2015, 08:15 AM
Actually deep down most of Europe don't like or trust Germany.
now Peter, how can you say that ?

They work so hard and everything :D
Gossamer
1 Jul 2015, 11:00 PM
Some polls are indicating the NO vote is ahead.

http://www.newsweek.com/no-vote-lead-greece-polls-show-348954
I declined to vote...

It could swing either way thanks to the timing of the greek bank shutdown.

The time for the referendum was probably a month ago, not this late... tricky as the terms were still up in the air to ask the question.
Edited by Rastus2, 2 Jul 2015, 10:14 AM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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