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Leodwald of Portsburgh
26 Dec 2014, 12:54 PM
I said "competition for resources". Resources are limited, water being the most obvious example, Australia being the driest continent on Earth. You are saying we must compete with foreigners and our offspring's with their offspring's and our offspring's offspring's with their offspring's offspring's e.t.c for our own limited resources in our own land or we are uncompetitive fat and lazy. You place competition above your own kith and kin and see this dog eat dog world view as a virtue. This is another manifestation of the mental illness currently infecting western nations and historically people had more sense of self preservation and common sense than this in their little finger.

There is a difference between competing in the world and inviting the world into your own country to compete for your own limited resources on your own shores. Australia has historically competed fairly well on the global stage, punching well above our weight in many areas of human endeavor and I would say this is in no small part due to our many natural advantages. Advantages that will be lost with the overpopulation that your dog eat dog world view will eventually lead to.



We can quite easily manage our resources better and handle a much larger population. I can't see any future government slowing growth until we have passed the 100 million mark. That will probably be early in the next century.

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I call BS on this. I think herbs said I converted him to big Australia in our first ever conversation so he already thought that or didn't take much prompting to change his mind and you are a real estate leach who knows where his bread is buttered - population ponzi.


Call it anything you like, it's clearly true. Fair minded people find your attitude revolting.

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And BTW self preservation challenged drones like yourself have solidified my views as well as teaching me a lot about the PC mental illness that is destroying western civilisation.


Yes I can see the pattern - an ad hom thrown in because you've nothing left Leo?

I understand that you don't want more immigrants, but they are coming nevertheless. You can protest, but the ones who will cope the best will be those who accept it and adapt. Always been the way. By protesting and posting here and at other sites you are pretty well sealing your fate.

You're a modern day dinosaur Leo - destined for extinction. But I understand, you feel the need to post the last word on every site that has articles or opinions that offend your 1953 attitude. No one is allowed to disagree with you.

Bye.
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26 Dec 2014, 01:22 PM

You have a straw man there Leo. You wont find many people on this very non-PC forum that agrees that people like you should be shut up.

In fact everyone has let you express your hatreds and your fears and have given their time to engage you in debate.

No-one has attempted to censor you by telling you that you are not PC, you should not resort to playing the victim.


Closed World has been playing the whingy victim card since he turned up here.
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peter fraser
26 Dec 2014, 02:19 PM
We can quite easily manage our resources better and handle a much larger population. I can't see any future government slowing growth until we have passed the 100 million mark. That will probably be early in the next century.




Call it anything you like, it's clearly true. Fair minded people find your attitude revolting.




Yes I can see the pattern - an ad hom thrown in because you've nothing left Leo?

I understand that you don't want more immigrants, but they are coming nevertheless. You can protest, but the ones who will cope the best will be those who accept it and adapt. Always been the way. By protesting and posting here and at other sites you are pretty well sealing your fate.

You're a modern day dinosaur Leo - destined for extinction. But I understand, you feel the need to post the last word on every site that has articles or opinions that offend your 1953 attitude. No one is allowed to disagree with you.

Bye.



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We can quite easily manage our resources better and handle a much larger population. I can't see any future government slowing growth until we have passed the 100 million mark. That will probably be early in the next century.


Got anything to back that up? Or is it totally in the realm of opinion? The dead giveaway that we are hitting up against resource limits is the energy intensive, outrageously expensive desalination plants that are being built around the country.

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Call it anything you like, it's clearly true. Fair minded people find your attitude revolting.


Yeah how revolting and un-PC to stand up to the eradication of your own lineage and ethnicity in your own country. Just disgusting.
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I understand that you don't want more immigrants, but they are coming nevertheless.


Not if enough people wake up and decide the future of their own kith and kin is worth more than anything foreigners are bringing to the table.


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You're a modern day dinosaur Leo - destined for extinction.


You are the one embracing extinction and people in 1953 had more sense of self preservation and common sense in their little finger than you are displaying.

See yah.
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Bwahahaha.

Desal plants, like the one in Sydney we pay a fortune to produce nothing, once again, brought to the people by the notoriously corrupt labor party. .

You fool.
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26 Dec 2014, 12:54 PM

I think herbs said I converted him to big Australia in our first ever conversation so he already thought that or didn't take much prompting to change his mind and you are a real estate leach who knows where his bread is buttered - population ponzi.
I went from being by and large indifferent (which was not to my credit given I had been appalled at some of the shit that got spruiked by the One Nation Party back in Hanson's day) to passive support (though still pretty much indifferent) to rather more active support now perhaps (though it still mightn't be especially active as immigration isn't an issue I feel all that passionate about either way.) But common sense simply says I should quite actively support high immigration. As it has the potential to prevent way more problems than it causes. And all the way out to 2100 even by the sounds. Which is a hell of a lot of breathing space.
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26 Dec 2014, 02:53 PM
Bwahahaha.

Desal plants, like the one in Sydney we pay a fortune to produce nothing, once again, brought to the people by the notoriously corrupt labor party. .

You fool.
Perhaps Desal driven by uranium in a very geologically stable nation that has huge reserves of uranium?
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herbie
26 Dec 2014, 02:58 PM
I went from being by and large indifferent (which was not to my credit given I had been appalled at some of the shit that got spruiked by the One Nation Party back in Hanson's day) to passive support (though still pretty much indifferent) to rather more active support now perhaps (though it still mightn't be especially active as immigration isn't an issue I feel all that passionate about either way.) But common sense simply says I should quite actively support high immigration. As it has the potential to prevent way more problems than it causes. And all the way out to 2100 even by the sounds. Which is a hell of a lot of breathing space.

Perhaps Desal driven by uranium in a very geologically stable nation that has huge reserves of uranium?
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But common sense simply says I should quite actively support high immigration. As it has the potential to prevent way more problems than it causes.


OK herbs let's hear it. What twisted logic brought you to these two conclusions?



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Perhaps Desal driven by uranium in a very geologically stable nation that has huge reserves of uranium?


Nuclear energy is maybe fine until something goes wrong then the whole uninsurable mess gets handed to the public while the advocates head for the hills. I think you will find that public opinion in Australia is very much against this form of energy production.
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BeNny once again rambling on about protecting his own kith and kin. What utter bullshit. He can choose to only hang out and root blue eyed blondes all you like. No one is stopping you dude. No one is stopping you from eating your beef and potatoes man. Others are a bit more broad minded and embrace the opportunities in terms of sex and tucker. Australia has and will always be multicultural. My own kith and kin have cultural heritage from just about every continent on the planet so I'll be standing up for them dickwad. It's you who want to have little enclaves of blue eyed blondes being fried by the harsh sun so out of place down here. Me, I'm a red head. I bet you hate us too. But my ancestors have been here longer than you so fuck you too.

I live in nsw and have just been checking out the honour roll of the top students in the hsc. A large majority of the top performers students with Asian heritage. Probably first generation for the large part with esl backgrounds. So all of our smartest high school graduates have Asian surnames. God luck finding a gp or lawyer in the next few years who fits your definition of Aussie Benny boy. Now I don't believe that Asians are smarter than non Asians but there is a clear argument that their success has raised educational expectations and standards across the system.

It's not all about exotic food dickwad. But good luck defending yourself against those terrorism charges with your blue eyed barrister dickwad.
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26 Dec 2014, 03:18 PM
OK herbs let's hear it. What twisted logic brought you to these two conclusions?
There's concerns out there that the younger gens will be taxed at unacceptably high levels to support the upcoming gen of retirees Leo.
Some reckon the concerns are unfounded. But either way the agenda is being pushed pretty hard by the Socialists - Who love ever increasing tax. With the twist they want to put on it seeming to be that the upcoming gen of retirees should be taxed at unacceptably high levels to support their own retirement.
Now the obvious way to get out of this somewhat less taxed for both both youngies and oldies, is to bring in lots of young immigrants.
It's a bit of a no brainer really.

You'll see the following types of arguments put forward by the big taxing welfare favouring Socialists and/or just natural haters of immigration:

* The upcoming gen of retirees have been extraordinarily advantaged all their lives every conceivable possible way so they deserve to pay lots of tax
* The upcoming gen of retirees are just fundamentally bad people who don't intend to leave their kids an inheritance so they deserve to pay lots of tax
* We don't have the water to bring in lots of immigrants
* Bringing in lots of immigrants will change our culture/Anglo ethnicity/values/morals/national identity/way of life etc

Like I said, high immigration is a no brainer really - Especially under the circumstances; And especially if we can just maybe keep it going all the way out to 2100.
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fozzy
26 Dec 2014, 07:10 PM
BeNny once again rambling on about protecting his own kith and kin. What utter bullshit. He can choose to only hang out and root blue eyed blondes all you like. No one is stopping you dude. No one is stopping you from eating your beef and potatoes man. Others are a bit more broad minded and embrace the opportunities in terms of sex and tucker. Australia has and will always be multicultural. My own kith and kin have cultural heritage from just about every continent on the planet so I'll be standing up for them dickwad. It's you who want to have little enclaves of blue eyed blondes being fried by the harsh sun so out of place down here. Me, I'm a red head. I bet you hate us too. But my ancestors have been here longer than you so fuck you too.

I live in nsw and have just been checking out the honour roll of the top students in the hsc. A large majority of the top performers students with Asian heritage. Probably first generation for the large part with esl backgrounds. So all of our smartest high school graduates have Asian surnames. God luck finding a gp or lawyer in the next few years who fits your definition of Aussie Benny boy. Now I don't believe that Asians are smarter than non Asians but there is a clear argument that their success has raised educational expectations and standards across the system.

It's not all about exotic food dickwad. But good luck defending yourself against those terrorism charges with your blue eyed barrister dickwad.
Can you believe this freak? What a perfect example of someone infected with the PC mental illness I've been talking about. First he called me racist without being able to produce a shred of evidence. Then he called me white supremacist without being able to produce a shred of evidence.

And now he calls me terrorist and I know he will not be able to produce a shred of evidence. I have never threatened anyone on or off this forum and have not and do not condone violence of any form.


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So where is it? Where are my posts that make me a terrorist? I know you won't produce any because you just fling accusations with no evidence. This is defamation and if you tried to pull this shit in the real world I would have you in court so quick it would make your head spin.


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26 Dec 2014, 09:12 PM
Can you believe this freak? What a perfect example of someone infected with the PC mental illness I've been talking about. First he called me racist without being able to produce a shred of evidence. Then he called me white supremacist without being able to produce a shred of evidence.

And now he calls me terrorist and I know he will not be able to produce a shred of evidence. I have never threatened anyone on or off this forum and have not and do not condone violence of any form.

So where is it? Where are my posts that make me a terrorist? I know you won't produce any because you just fling accusations with no evidence. This is defamation and if you tried to pull this shit in the real world I would have you in court so quick it would make your head spin.

I'm glad you're not big on violence Leo.

But just out of interest, do you have at least three or two of the following in your family tree? :

A convict or an ANZAC/Light horse type dude or an ATSI person (South Sea black birded type dude is fine too) or an Afghan camel driver or a Chinese gold miner.

Ferk; Us ole time Aussies can be pretty accepting/naturally tolerant - We'll even consider letting you 'in the club' ( :) ) if you had a relly who was a guest of the Japanese at Changi 'n suchlike (Hmmm - I had a great uncle there - Just didn't ever quite sober up afterwards for some 'strange' reason.) Or if you personally went off to Vietnam or even Afghanistan or Iraq more recently, that would lend your 'Oi oi oi' lineage claims some respectability too.

So give us the gos dude - Tell us all about your personal Oi oi oi lineage claim type rights - Just as a bit of momentary diversion from telling us all about how much you dislike immigration 'n why ...

'N if you shouldn't actually happen to have any of the above, we'll even still consider letting you 'in the club' providing you don't actively prove yourself to be an out 'n out arseshole - As I said, we do tend towards just being rather accepting/tolerant perhaps? [Nowadays anyway.]
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