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peter fraser
21 Dec 2014, 04:48 PM
I like it, I have lots of good friends who wouldn't be in Australia if we hadn't opened our doors to non-anglo races.
They have enriched our culture by fusing theirs with ours. If you can't see that then I feel sorry for you.

It's rare to come across someone with a mind as closed as yours, so I don't believe that it's possible for you to change your mind on any subject, let alone this subject.
Bring your family to Banstown ,auburn or Lakemba of a nightime.

A mate of mine from school, who was ethnic himself, he may of been maltese, I cannot remember. But one night , while waiting on the street at a but stop in the suburb he lived, was set upon by a bunch of lebanese for no reason whatsover. He is not the type of person who would ever cause trouble. He was a lovely guy and would be the first to offer help to anybody in need, and was always happy and smiling, always....

He now has permanent brain damage.
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Leodwald of Portsburgh
21 Dec 2014, 02:30 PM
So at least tell me the benefits of multiculturalism using some quantifiable metric and not the usual multiculturalist fluff
Eventually it breeds out pieces of shit like you, you know, when your sister decides to have a bit of Asian, or maybe some African lad.
I have heard it said, "Once you have black you never go back".
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The ethos I have always lived by -

Judge a man not by his religion, beliefs, nationality or colour. Judge him by his deeds, actions, kindness and humanity to others - or lack thereof.

Many of Australia's social problems boil down to our impotent justice system and our culture of irresponsibility for our actions. To top to it off, we have our economic problems which stem from a lack of vision, lack of innovation, oligopolies, duopolies and the politicisation of our housing sector.

Australia's problems have little or nothing to do with multiculturalism.
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peter fraser
21 Dec 2014, 04:48 PM
I like it, I have lots of good friends who wouldn't be in Australia if we hadn't opened our doors to non-anglo races.
They have enriched our culture by fusing theirs with ours. If you can't see that then I feel sorry for you.




It's rare to come across someone with a mind as closed as yours, so I don't believe that it's possible for you to change your mind on any subject, let alone this subject.
That's it? That's all you got? A few friends and some multicultural fluff? You think it's reasonable to call me closed minded when this weak shit is all you can come up with in defense of multiculturalism? Open our doors to 300 000+ per year because peter fraser has a few ethnic friends.

What about the Australian's that will never be born now because Australians need to compete for resources with these new arrivals and their offsprings and their offsprings offsprings? They'll never be in Australia now because we opened our doors. Like I said this celebration of the demise of your own lineage and ethnicity in your own country is a disease - 'I'm so open minded, non-racist and xenophilic i'll give away my country to prove it'.

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"Multiculturalism: a review of Australian policy statements and recent debates in Australia and overseas
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Conclusion

Multiculturalism was a policy introduced in Australia to deal with the settlement needs of migrant communities and was conceived as a means of recognising the preservation of cultural identities and achieving social justice and social cohesion. However, in 30 years of the policy's existence at various levels of government, both in Australia and overseas, the policy and concept of multiculturalism have undergone considerable debate and change in both governmental and academic discourses. Irrespective of debates and changing political and community perceptions of the term 'multiculturalism', societies have inexorably become more diverse in that period, with the result that, as recognised by the NSW Community Relations Commission, in March 2010, the need for the government services and programs established under policies of multiculturalism has not diminished, but is only expected to increase.[307]

Globally, migration is a growing and increasingly complex phenomenon as people are moving and forging connections between countries in rapidly evolving ways.[308] In the context of the growing scale and changing nature of migration there is merit in considering the role that multiculturalism has played in meeting the needs of a diverse population and mediating cultural relations in Australia. In considering the utility of a concept and policy like multiculturalism questions arise as to whether it can be further developed, or whether there is a need to find new concepts in the national vernacular to articulate the contemporary nature of diversity and change in Australian society.

In order to understand the impact of multiculturalism on Australian society and to assess the ongoing relevance and potential of multiculturalism for dealing with contemporary challenges there is a need for clarification in public debate of the nature and basis of multiculturalism as it was appropriated and developed in Australia. As government policy in Australia, multiculturalism was primarily concerned with cultural and linguistic diversity; while recognising the need to cater to the linguistic needs of ethnic communities, unlike Canada, multiculturalism in Australia was always premised on the supremacy of the English language; and it was premised on the supremacy of existing institutions and the rule of law.[309]

As Australian Government policy articulated the relevance of multiculturalism to all Australians in the 1980s, multiculturalism began to grow beyond its origins as an element of settlement policy to become a pillar of Australia's nation-building narratives. While programs and services under policies of multiculturalism have been serving migrants entering Australia from different parts of the world for decades, today there are multiple generations of Australians of various cultural backgrounds who have grown up in societies marked by diversity, and growing global connectedness, and who as a result have increasingly complex claims of identity and belonging. Can the concept of multiculturalism contribute to expanding the capacity of Australian identity narratives to encompass multiple forms of belonging? Does multiculturalism have a role to play in enabling the demographic diversity of the Australian community to be represented and reflected in cultural, institutional and governmental structures of Australian society? Do the experiences of other countries illuminate the role that discursive narratives of multiculturalism play in articulating and increasing acceptance of, and engagement with, multicultural realities?

Many of the issues faced by multicultural societies today transcend national borders and raise broader questions about how liberal democracies are to respond to the challenges of diversity. As a concept and policy that was originally concerned primarily with linguistic and cultural diversity both in Australia and overseas, how can multiculturalism deal with growing religious diversity and the issues raised by religious expression, often mediated by cultural practices, in secular liberal democratic spaces? Does multiculturalism have a role to play in addressing enduring social inequalities and the challenges faced by minority communities in diverse societies such as Australia and elsewhere? What is the role of the media and educational institutions in contributing to understanding across differences in multicultural societies?

Public discourse has played a central role in shaping the way that Australians have come to view multiculturalism as a concept and policy. In the context of increasing diversity, the question remains as to how multiculturalism can be meaningfully engaged with, and whether such engagement can contribute to the development of new concepts that can enable more productive public discourses about the challenges and transformations resulting from increasing diversity."

Source: http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1011/11rp06 (written in 2010)
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A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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Leodwald of Portsburgh
21 Dec 2014, 07:35 PM
That's it? That's all you got? A few friends and some multicultural fluff? You think it's reasonable to call me closed minded when this weak shit is all you can come up with in defense of multiculturalism? Open our doors to 300 000+ per year because peter fraser has a few ethnic friends.

What about the Australian's that will never be born now because Australians need to compete for resources with these new arrivals and their offsprings and their offsprings offsprings? They'll never be in Australia now because we opened our doors. Like I said this celebration of the demise of your own lineage and ethnicity in your own country is a disease - 'I'm so open minded, non-racist and xenophilic i'll give away my country to prove it'.
You just ooze stupidity Leo.

Clearly we need a larger gene pool. We will have to lift our rates of immigration not reduce them.

You have convinced me of that.

Well done.



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peter fraser
21 Dec 2014, 08:26 PM
You just ooze stupidity Leo.

Clearly we need a larger gene pool. We will have to lift our rates of immigration not reduce them.

You have convinced me of that.

Well done.


Maybe his progeny will lose the whinging pom gene.
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peter fraser
21 Dec 2014, 08:26 PM
Clearly we need a larger gene pool. We will have to lift our rates of immigration not reduce them.

You have convinced me of that.
BeN convinced me of that some time back. And since then Leo has carried on convincing me (albeit in a rather up front in ya face kinda way.)

As opposed to Pauk who also convinced me - Though through his use of his rather more (to him ... :re: ) surreptitious approaches ...
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A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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peter fraser
21 Dec 2014, 08:26 PM
You just ooze stupidity Leo.

Clearly we need a larger gene pool. We will have to lift our rates of immigration not reduce them.

You have convinced me of that.

Well done.






WTF. You come up with a piss-weak defense to your willingness to participate in the destruction of your own lineage and ethnicity in your own land and get cross when someone points out how mentally F deranged it is?? People have historically had a greater sense of self preservation and more common sense in their little finger than you are displaying.
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Leodwald of Portsburgh
21 Dec 2014, 08:45 PM




WTF. You come up with a piss-weak defense to your willingness to participate in the destruction of your own lineage and ethnicity in your own land and get cross when someone points out how mentally F deranged it is?? People have historically had a greater sense of self preservation and more common sense in their little finger than you are displaying.
Before I didn't really take much interest in immigration, I merely observed, but now I want 100 million before 2020.

Lets start a petition Leo - what do you say?

You and Doc Watson have convinced me.


herbie
21 Dec 2014, 08:39 PM
BeN convinced me of that some time back. And since then Leo has carried on convincing me (albeit in a rather up front in ya face kinda way.)

As opposed to Pauk who also convinced me - Though through his use of his rather more (to him ... :re: ) surreptitious approaches ...
Yep, lets start petitioning our politicians.

We can lift the rate of immigration to stratospheric levels - no problem.
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