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peter fraser
20 Dec 2014, 07:32 PM
I don't have a target, I never have. Why would I?
You are a believer in an immigration programme without limits.
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Dr Watson
20 Dec 2014, 07:39 PM
You are a believer in an immigration programme without limits.
No that's not true, but frankly Doc I don't care one hoot what you think.
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19 Dec 2014, 09:29 AM
Hmmm, because everytime someone goes thrillkilling in the USA one of the many armed citizens pops up and puts an end to it.

NOT!

I certainly don't want a trigger happy bunch of nutters walking our streets but it's a positive if healthy fit people get taught the logistic of defending themselves.

I could easily outrun someone not fit but if there's a weapon I'm stuffed & I don't know the exact pressure points to render someone unconscious. That's where martial arts training is a bonus.

I suppose until you're in that unenviable situation, your adrenalin levels will be aimed to try & think of ways to defend yourself & one would think of unconventional ways like a heeled shoe ..sharp fingernails to aim for the eyes .

Anyway there's more horrid news ..kids murdered in Cairns .

I don't understand, it's just awful..tragic why oh why?


Edited by Blondie girl, 20 Dec 2014, 08:02 PM.
Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$
It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged
Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do.
Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
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Blondie girl
20 Dec 2014, 08:01 PM
I certainly don't want a trigger happy bunch of nutters walking our streets but it's a positive if healthy fit people get taught the logistic of defending themselves.

I could easily outrun someone not fit but if there's a weapon I'm stuffed & I don't know the exact pressure points to render someone unconscious. That's where martial arts training is a bonus.

I suppose until you're in that unenviable situation, your adrenalin levels will be aimed to try & think of ways to defend yourself & one would think of unconventional ways like a heeled shoe ..sharp fingernails to aim for the eyes .

Anyway there's more horrid news ..kids murdered in Cairns .

I don't understand, it's just awful..tragic why oh why?

F all flowers for the blacks in the boondocks as them getting topped simply doesn't attract as much mainstream interest (potential advertising revenue) as more mainstream types getting popped whilst lining up to drink their cafe lattes in Sydvegas does mayhaps Blondie?

Not sure why anyone would be surprised by that particular media 'n democratically elected voter driven gov type response? ... Such is Life???
Edited by herbie, 21 Dec 2014, 03:16 AM.
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20 Dec 2014, 08:29 AM
Australia was a much nicer and safer place before multiculture came to town.
When did 'multiculture' come to town Ted?

Was it during the gold rushes of the mid 1800's? When all those pesky Chinese arrived. Should we enact a Chinese immigration act? Or are the Chinese ok now?

Was it during the 70's when all the 'wogs' and ten pound poms arrived?

Was it during the 80's when the Vietnamese arrived?

Was it during the 90's when the Chinese again launched the yellow peril?

Was it during the early 00's when the Russian and South Americans arrived?

Was it during the late 00's when the Arabs and north Africans arrived?



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zaph
21 Dec 2014, 04:19 AM
When did 'multiculture' come to town Ted?

Was it during the gold rushes of the mid 1800's? When all those pesky Chinese arrived. Should we enact a Chinese immigration act? Or are the Chinese ok now?

Was it during the 70's when all the 'wogs' and ten pound poms arrived?

Was it during the 80's when the Vietnamese arrived?

Was it during the 90's when the Chinese again launched the yellow peril?

Was it during the early 00's when the Russian and South Americans arrived?

Was it during the late 00's when the Arabs and north Africans arrived?


Here's a cut and paste from the answer I gave to newjez about 2pages back. Try to keep up.

Multiculturalism in Australia can be dated to the mid 1970's when the relentless efforts of the ungrateful refugee, Walter Lippmann began to gain traction within political circles. The ungrateful Lippmann deeply resented the assimilated culture of the Australia that had granted him safe harbour and found Australian expectation to assimilate as oppressive and that is all multiculturalism has ever been - immigrant refusal to integrate and insistence on maintaining their own culture on these shores while enjoying the fruits of our society and demanding that we, the host culture, pick up the tab for it. It really took off under the watch of the drunken idiot everyman Rhodes scholar, Hawke in what he described as a triumph of 'principle over populism'. Now you only need to look at what he does now to see he wouldn't know a principle if he tripped over it and the last time I checked populism was the very definition of democracy. Mass immigration really took off on Howards' watch and this endless debate we have about refugees is a smokescreen to distract Australians from what is coming through the front door and he has admitted as much.
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21 Dec 2014, 10:37 AM
Here's a cut and paste from the answer I gave to newjez about 2pages back. Try to keep up.

Multiculturalism in Australia can be dated to the mid 1970's when the relentless efforts of the ungrateful refugee, Walter Lippmann began to gain traction within political circles. The ungrateful Lippmann deeply resented the assimilated culture of the Australia that had granted him safe harbour and found Australian expectation to assimilate as oppressive and that is all multiculturalism has ever been - immigrant refusal to integrate and insistence on maintaining their own culture on these shores while enjoying the fruits of our society and demanding that we, the host culture, pick up the tab for it. It really took off under the watch of the drunken idiot everyman Rhodes scholar, Hawke in what he described as a triumph of 'principle over populism'. Now you only need to look at what he does now to see he wouldn't know a principle if he tripped over it and the last time I checked populism was the very definition of democracy. Mass immigration really took off on Howards' watch and this endless debate we have about refugees is a smokescreen to distract Australians from what is coming through the front door and he has admitted as much.
I read this post as it's a reply to mine, but I generally don't read your posts. You're just an internet oxygen thief.
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21 Dec 2014, 04:19 AM
When did 'multiculture' come to town Ted?

Was it during the gold rushes of the mid 1800's? When all those pesky Chinese arrived. Should we enact a Chinese immigration act? Or are the Chinese ok now?

Was it during the 70's when all the 'wogs' and ten pound poms arrived?

Was it during the 80's when the Vietnamese arrived?

Was it during the 90's when the Chinese again launched the yellow peril?

Was it during the early 00's when the Russian and South Americans arrived?

Was it during the late 00's when the Arabs and north Africans arrived?


Good question zaph. Perhaps I should of used a better choice of words there.

I started primary school in the 70s.

In my kindergarten class. We had many kids who were born here, just about all of them, but where some of their parents were born overseas.

We had mostly white looking anglo kids, but plenty of other races.

From memory, we had 7 white anglo kids born from Australain born parents. Other white anglos born from overseas born parents were as follows.

1 from scotland
2 from england
1 from new guinea
1 from south africa
1 from the US.

We aslo had
1 lebanese
3 greeks
1 matltese
1 chinese

But where half these parents above where born here.

Everybody spoke perfect english. We were all good friends, all through primary we did not even know the word racism or probably what it meant if we had of been asked. There was no racial stuff whatsoever, we were all equal and all mixed equally as though we all were the same. We were... Never ever ever, was there a call of wog or asain or whatever. Nothing.

I guess that sort of thing gets learned further along.

So before the mid eighties , we had a certain type of immigrant , one that suited and blended in perfectly with our way of life. Immigrants who were happy to come here, work hard, blend into OUR way of life, and become part of OUR way of life, the better life. They did not come here pushing their ways or religion upon us, their laws or their barbaric ways. They offered what they had, and we embraced and enjoyed that.

I can remember around the early eighties, where in the city in Sydney, you would see a lot of vandalism . From what I can remember some slogans were, stop the asian invasion, no more asians, and simliar type things. I did not think a lot about it at the time, I was only pretty young.

But getting back to your question, derived from my broad based comment, we will narrow it down.

From the early to mid eighties, we had a lot of newer immigrants start arriving from all sorts of other places. And as time went on they came from everywhere. Maoiri, somalia, india ,pakistan, basically everywhere.

These new type of immigrant were not quite the same. They start their own enclaves , want their own laws and ways forced upon me. Have not come from places of families with the same morals and laws or way of life. They come from barbaric places , and have been bought us this way and know no different. It might be sterotyping for some, but it is fact, no matter how loud you cry racist.

So zaph, we have had immigrants make and build this country what it is ,or was. Built on the ways and lifestyle of those who arrived and made it what it is. If it was dicovered by islamic terrorists back then instead of the white anglo, do you think people would have wanted to come here then. That pretty much says it all, and these new immigrants want to ruin what we created and destroy it with their own style of destruction, the thing most early immigrants were only to happy to distance themselves from.

I guess the bottom line is , immigration was working well for a while. But now many parts of Sydney look like a third world country, the dress ,streetscape and shop layout.

I think it was all pretty good until we started to become overun with asains. My suburb was one of the most aussie suburbs there was, it now looks more like china town these days. And the other problem was when we started letting all these people in from the middle east.

Muslim ,islam, death , terror and bombs all go hand in hand. Thats the type of immigrant we cannot risk bringing here as it compromises the safety of our country and its citizens as we have seen all aroound the world. It might be unfortunate for some of the good ones, but the safety of our country and citizens is far more important here. Its the most important thing of all , yet not being taken seriously.

So too many asains and anything to do with muslim is where it all when horribly wrong.

You can say what you want, cry racist all you want, cry lunatic all you want, I could not care less in the slightest. I would have more asain and muslim friends and know more muslims and asains than most of you here. But it does not mean I want to be overun by way too many asains or the barbaric ways and laws from the ancestors of a friend. One of my good mates from high school was a muslim, his dad went to mecca and all that. He was egyptian, I never even thought anything about it at the time. The rest of the family did not seem to practice the religion. His mum and sister wore normal clothing, I just remember his dad going to mecca.But we were the best of mates, his has moved into state and i had dinner with him about two years ago now.

I guess the moral of the story is zaph, immigration and multiculture in this country where working very well for a very long time. But at the time, we had the right balance , the right immigrant , with the right intensions and ways of life that matched and suited and blended in well with out own. We had immigrants who were only to happen to embrace our way of life, distance themselves from the crap they wanted to get away from in their homeland, and blend in with the community, not create their own.

So now the balance is out of whack and we are bringing the wrong type of immigrant here now that does not blend so well with our ways or lifestyle or laws.

So it was good while it lasted zaph.
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21 Dec 2014, 11:50 AM
I read this post as it's a reply to mine, but I generally don't read your posts. You're just an internet oxygen thief.
That's alright. I rarely read your posts either. You're just so wishy washy.
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Australia is headed the same way as the UK.

Earlier warning signs years ago.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=QiCWVJrVJIfn8gXTvoHwBQ&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkczkDnMgboU&ved=0CDUQtwIwCTgK&usg=AFQjCNH8G6TR52qBT7r4JGu4edQnNpmdGg

And further results of what the complete ignorance do gooders. Do you think things get better or worse from here.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=QiCWVJrVJIfn8gXTvoHwBQ&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DSgKMI1wV0ps&ved=0CB0QtwIwATgK&usg=AFQjCNHqUbX02NeWxZST1G0UpibECpW_5A

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2720431/The-100-years-war-Islam-Dire-warning-former-Australian-military-chief.html

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=qyKWVM2sOdXt8AXxjYKgBg&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DpSLzqxFEYhg&ved=0CDAQtwIwBw&usg=AFQjCNFxsscdD84KlYBzPzQxftrI5xEQWA

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-21/anti-islam-hate-campaign-raises-tensions-to-violent-new-heights/5402526
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