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Hostages taken at Lindt Cafe, Martin Place. Forced to hold Islamic flag against window.
Topic Started: 15 Dec 2014, 10:25 AM (28,408 Views)
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peter fraser
18 Dec 2014, 02:44 PM
Was the Martin Place hostage taker really a terrorist?

Wasn't he a think bloke with a personal social grudge?

I was in Port Arthur a year after the shootings and the staff there were still terrorised.
Monis associated with an ideology. And, I reckon, saw his violence as a furthering of that cause. Using violence to create doubt in a community. You don't know where or when the next incident is coming - whether he's alive tomorrow or not. To me, that's the definition of a terrorist.

Bryant expected to die during his murder spree so wasn't attempting to continue an ongoing concern. He may have disturbed a community but I don't think that was part of his plan. He was just making people pay for making him feel bad.

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Blondie girl
18 Dec 2014, 09:53 AM
Leo
It's about mental health issues, not immigration.

It's about going about ones ones bizness & facing a terror that threatens the safety of being about to do our daily routines with no threats by mentally unstable individuals.

This man was mad & bad, yes he was well known to police, with the horrid history he had, they should of not negotiated but ...
eliminated him.
Yeah, yeah, the religion of peace until the next psycho, lone wolf, walking time bomb goes off.

Islam is in no way responsible for producing a violent sexual abuser and terrorist.

You might be interested in my new hashtag now trending on twitter #illgetcoffeewithyou to support Australians too frightened to get coffee for fear being murdered by Islamic extremists.

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Leodwald of Portsburgh
18 Dec 2014, 05:42 PM

Islam is in no way responsible for producing a violent sexual abuser and terrorist.

Have you any knowledge at all about Islam and cultural practices in places like Afghanastan? Look up 'dancing boys', or the approach they have to woman, especially very young woman and sexuality. Then return to the forum and tell everyone how wrong you were. It would be like denying other religions who share extremist views e.g. Christianity, doesn't have sexual or violent offenders. It ridiculous because thisr personalities are drawn to this idiology.

It's very much chicken and egg stuff as to whether they were drawn to an idiology because they were predators or they became predators after falling into an idiology?

Anyway, 2 people die in Sydney and it gets 3 days of non stop media and coverage. 114 teachers and children/students get slaughtered on the same day by Islamic extremists in Pakistan just because they wanted to educate/be educated and we don't even care.
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Chris
18 Dec 2014, 06:25 PM
Have you any knowledge at all about Islam and cultural practices in places like Afghanastan? Look up 'dancing boys', or the approach they have to woman, especially very young woman and sexuality. Then return to the forum and tell everyone how wrong you were. It would be like denying other religions who share extremist views e.g. Christianity, doesn't have sexual or violent offenders. It ridiculous because thisr personalities are drawn to this idiology.

It's very much chicken and egg stuff as to whether they were drawn to an idiology because they were predators or they became predators after falling into an idiology?

Anyway, 2 people die in Sydney and it gets 3 days of non stop media and coverage. 114 teachers and children/students get slaughtered on the same day by Islamic extremists in Pakistan just because they wanted to educate/be educated and we don't even care.
Ummmm, I was being sarcastic.

I don't get your point about the media coverage. You are in Australia, of course the event in Australian is going to get an unproportional amount of media coverage.
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Leodwald of Portsburgh
18 Dec 2014, 06:52 PM
Ummmm, I was being sarcastic.

I don't get your point about the media coverage. You are in Australia, of course the event in Australian is going to get an unproportional amount of media coverage.
Ahhhhhh, again. Please spend your time educating yourself.

Sydney made the news in every first world nation, most second world nations also.

Pakistan did not.

Syria has seen, on average, 1,000 people slaughters every week in the name of extremist Islam and we just don't care. This is our world, get the ratings, follow the money, nothing........no one else matters.

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Chris
18 Dec 2014, 07:43 PM
Ahhhhhh, again. Please spend your time educating yourself.

Sydney made the news in every first world nation, most second world nations also.

Pakistan did not.

Syria has seen, on average, 1,000 people slaughters every week in the name of extremist Islam and we just don't care. This is our world, get the ratings, follow the money, nothing........no one else matters.
OK, I see what you mean. I think the media coverage will be examined in the wash up as well. I remember hearing an ABC reporter question the level of coverage during the siege in that it gave the perp exactly what he wanted. I don't know what level of reporting it got overseas but yes it was outrageous and blown out of all proportion here in Australia. I also had a quick look at this MSM article this morning that called the media coverage shameful.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/blunt-instrument/media-coverage-of-sydney-siege-shameful-20141216-127wa6.html
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Many years ago I attempted to read a copy of The Koran - Wasn't my thing.

After the 9/11 shit, read up a bit on what The Koran says.

Sometime after that, found myself in a situation where I got to spend rather lengthy periods of time chatting with a Muslim migrant.

Eventually got 'round to asking him if my impressions of what The Koran said were true.

He replied "Yes".

A hard working, intelligent (sophisticated even I'd say), decent and to my way of thinking, quite honest human being.

Would I be happy to keep him here whilst showing the home grown non-Muslim nutters the exit door? - Certainly.
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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I keep getting interrupted with my kids ATM so I need to quickly post...

I dislike ANY form of religion because it aims of one sure thing ..to promote disunity..it's created to divide us.

Go stick the bible, & all that rubbish paraphernalia up you know what.
Everyone deserves to live with no fear of reprisal or under control of others .
Yes children are being killed & murdered because of where they live. I do feel for them because they have no say whatsoever.

Newjerk? can you try harder than dig up another person's blog. My first promo was with Billabong and my name in English is modified with a T, am Perth born but also lived in Sydney to make my $$
It's Absolutely Fabulous if it includes brilliant locations, & high calibre tenants..what more does one want? Understand the power of the two "P"" or be financially challenged
Even better when there is family who are property mad and one is born in some entitlements.....Understand that beautiful women are the exhibitionists we crave attention, whilst hot blooded men are the voyeurs ... A stunning woman can command and takes pleasure in being noticed. Seems not too many understand what it means to hold and own props and get threatened by those who do.
Banks are considered to be law abiding and & rather boring places yeah not true . A bank balance sheet will show capital is dwarfed by their liabilities this means when a portions of loans is falling its problems for the bank.
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Zero is coming...

Blondie girl
18 Dec 2014, 09:53 AM
Leo
It's about mental health issues, not immigration.

It's about going about ones ones bizness & facing a terror that threatens the safety of being about to do our daily routines with no threats by mentally unstable individuals.

This man was mad & bad, yes he was well known to police, with the horrid history he had, they should of not negotiated but ...
eliminated him.
Yes Blondie i agree with you.

Ivan Milat was not a Muslim.

Peter
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peter fraser
16 Dec 2014, 11:32 AM
Oh you Poms are just complaining about the trade. We got Spike Milligan and you got Rolf and we threw in Germaine Greer for a sweetener- we won that deal. You should have done your due diligence.
Spike Milligan was Irish.
Leodwald of Portsburgh
16 Dec 2014, 12:07 PM
Your stinking heart is bleeding all over the place. How you turn this into hating on white people is beyond disgusting. Sanctimonious cultural marxist pig.
What has skin colour got to do with anything? Do you really believe that being born white rather than brown makes you a better person?

Maybe blue eyes rather than green make you better? What about the hair colour? Does blonde trump red? Are males better than females?

If you have these kinds of thoughts in your head, maybe you need to go onto a federal watchlist.
Edited by Jimbo, 19 Dec 2014, 05:22 AM.
Matthew, 30 Jan 2016, 09:21 AM Your simplistic view is so flawed it is not worth debating. The current oversupply will be swallowed in 12 months. By the time dumb shits like you realise this prices will already be :?: rising.
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