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MH17: It wasn't a Russian supplied missile say the Germans
Topic Started: 20 Oct 2014, 08:19 AM (4,185 Views)
herbie
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/prorussian-rebels-using-seized-ukrainian-missile-downed-mh17-passenger-plane-says-germany-20141020-118i9u.html
A Professional Demographer to an amateur demographer: "negative natural increase will never outweigh the positive net migration"
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herbie
20 Oct 2014, 08:19 AM
Idiot Abbot went off half arsed and blamed Russia without a shred of F evidence. How F diplomatic. Damn, how embarrassing to have these half wits representing this country.
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Zero is coming...

Very poor form.

One of the worst things you can do, accuse a person falsely.

I am very ashamed of what he has done.

He does not represent me.

Sorry Mr. Putin.

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I don't know if we will ever find out the truth on who shot this plane down. What about the fighter jet(s) that were tailing it juts before it fell, what about those holes that looked liked bullet holes around the cockpit that also appeared to have entered in the top and exited in the bottom? Why are they saying that it will take a year for the full investigation results to be released?

And why don't the NSA just tell us what happened to MH370?

Yes Abbot and Bishop really did embarrassingly jump the gun on this one, pointing the finger at Russia, even if they were involved it is just not good form for the PM to be preempting the results of an investigation.

I dont know if anyone seen Lateline last Monday when they interviewed a Russian MP about Abbot's shirtfront statement and also the MH17 investigation, he really did make Abbot look like the village idiot during the interview.
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Bardon
20 Oct 2014, 11:13 AM




I dont know if anyone seen Lateline last Monday when they interviewed a Russian MP about Abbot's shirtfront statement and also the MH17 investigation,
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I don't know if we will ever find out the truth on who shot this plane down. What about the fighter jet(s) that were tailing it juts before it fell, what about those holes that looked liked bullet holes around the cockpit that also appeared to have entered in the top and exited in the bottom? Why are they saying that it will take a year for the full investigation results to be released?


"we can't handle the truth?"

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And why don't the NSA just tell us what happened to MH370?


Because they rely on fox news for their intelligence?

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Yes Abbot and Bishop really did embarrassingly jump the gun on this one, pointing the finger at Russia, even if they were involved it is just not good form for the PM to be preempting the results of an investigation.


Politics!

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he really did make Abbot look like the village idiot during the interview.


If the (dunce)hat fits?
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Does Germany have a vested interest here?

Does this really change anything?
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
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newjez
20 Oct 2014, 11:47 AM
Does Germany have a vested interest here?
Good question.

IMO Yes - Germany is reliant on Russia for energy & winter is coming. It is in their interest for better relations.
http://www.vox.com/2014/7/25/5936521/why-europe-wont-punish-russia-in-one-map
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Does this really change anything?

No.
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newjez
20 Oct 2014, 11:47 AM
Does Germany have a vested interest here?
Maybe they've decided Europe is so deeply in a hole it mightn't be a real bad idea if they rethink Putin's 2010 suggestion he just could consider joining the Eurozone someday - So that the Germans aren't the only ones stuck with carrying the rest??? :

"Vladimir Putin said it is "quite possible" that Russia will one day join the eurozone and create a currency that would eclipse the US dollar as the global reserve standard."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/8163347/Putin-Russia-will-join-the-euro-one-day.html

Though one can understand the Americans not being keen given the 'unfortunate' manner in which he phrased his comment ... :)

But anyway, yeah, who's to really know whose vested interests are what in this world?
newjez
20 Oct 2014, 11:47 AM
Does this really change anything?
Not to me it doesn't; As it was the situation I'd always judged most likely. But I would have thought that to some others, the answer might be "Oh yeah!" ?
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Guilty until proven innocent must be our governments new MO.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/20/australian-government-metadata-requests-far-higher-than-disclosed

500 000 per year - they gotta be taking the piss. I guess when your running a population ponzi scheme your citizens rights have got to become meaningless.
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Abbot is an idiot to wrongly accuse Putin.

A full absolute apology on his knees is required.

Beg the Russian people for forgiveness.

What logical advantage was ever there for the Russians to shoot down a fully laden civil aircraft??

When they can nuke the whole world??

Some super intelligent had a sudden rush of shit to the head and pulled the trigger, thinking no one would ever be able to find out the truth.

Go team Russia.

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