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Foxy
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Zero is coming...

xl Kluganis Xl.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-08/keystone-be-darned-canada-finds-oil-route-around-obama.html

Discounts of $43 per barrel, ghee the world must be really short of oil.

Next someone will say the globe is warming.

Peter

Oh and the U.K. is short of electricity??

Where do you pull it from Kluganis??

Where do you have a news feed none else on the planet has, or do you just get mixed up??

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Mustapha Mond
20 Oct 2014, 01:38 AM
xl Kluganis Xl.
XI?

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-08/keystone-be-darned-canada-finds-oil-route-around-obama.html

Discounts of $43 per barrel, ghee the world must be really short of oil.
Because the US is their only real buyer, what is it you say ad infinitum? Supply and demand? What happens when you're trying to sell something you have a lot of, that you can only sell to one person?

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Next someone will say the globe is warming.

Peter
Had to throw in some waffle didn't you, just to flesh out your nonsense even more.

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Oh and the U.K. is short of electricity??

Where do you pull it from Kluganis??

Where do you have a news feed none else on the planet has, or do you just get mixed up??

Short? You're the one who said they only need a single nuclear reactor.
Edited by Kulganis, 20 Oct 2014, 01:43 AM.
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Zero is coming...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2510936/Cut-green-c-p-Camerons-private-view-energy-taxation-horrify-environmental-campaigners.html


Just ditch the green crap Kluganis, it is so 2000.


Peter

What crap are you going to believe in Next???
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Your original arguments were destroyed, totally, so what do you do? Try to change the subject and entertain yourself with more waffling.
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Oh Alex, why do you not provide a like button?
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
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Kulganis
20 Oct 2014, 03:19 AM
Your original arguments were destroyed, totally, so what do you do? Try to change the subject and entertain yourself with more waffling.
Kluganis,
You and i could get a job at the local tip, your job is to sort through all the green electrical power saving mumbo jumbo crap that never did or maybe did or maybe did not work.
Who's owners are giving up and sending it all away in the skip bins.
I will just sit there and watch you and laugh.
Global warming green house gas mumbo jumbo crap.

Send it all the the tip and replace it with one big nuke plant.

A warm steady glow.

Now you are talking.

Peter
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So, more waffling then.

The original premise was that Australia could lay down cables between us and Asia. And to basically cut out the middle man, using solar energy directly from the sun, rather than through coal. Which doesn't prevent us from digging up and selling the coal anyway, it would just be another revenue source.

You said the technology for that doesn't exist.

I've shown that you don't know what you're talking about.

This has nothing to do with climate change, I don't know why you're so fixated on it, I'm not.

It's a business idea, with the possibility for a huge windfall for the entire country.

Are you telling me that you don't want us to grow our terms of trade? So no more business, what we already have is good enough?

Are you so blinded by your ignorance that you can't see that such an idea would greatly benefit everyone?
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Kluganis, if you have not looked lately or just plain do not know how the globe looks.

We are on the same time line as asia.

When the sun goes down Kluganis the power is no longer generated by the sun.


How does a super intelligent person like yourself propose to supply energy to 2 billion people when the sun goes down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load_power_plant

You require a "base" load plant.

Now the cheapest form of base load is Nuke plant.

Talk all the green global warming mumbo jumbo fuzzy feel good crap you like but those are the fact Kluganis.

China is building 150 nuke plants.

So you want to send them solar power??

You really have bought the dream.

Wake up.

Peter

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1591984/china-plans-be-world-leader-nuclear-power-2020?page=all

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-18/french-nuclear-regulator-says-china-cooperation-lacking.html
Mustapha Mond
21 Oct 2014, 11:05 AM
Kluganis, if you have not looked lately or just plain do not know how the globe looks.

We are on the same time line as asia.

When the sun goes down Kluganis the power is no longer generated by the sun.


How does a super intelligent person like yourself propose to supply energy to 2 billion people when the sun goes down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load_power_plant

You require a "base" load plant.

Now the cheapest form of base load is Nuke plant.

Talk all the green global warming mumbo jumbo fuzzy feel good crap you like but those are the fact Kluganis.

China is building 150 nuke plants.

So you want to send them solar power??

You really have bought the dream.

Wake up.

Peter

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1591984/china-plans-be-world-leader-nuclear-power-2020?page=all

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-18/french-nuclear-regulator-says-china-cooperation-lacking.html
The nice man has his hand in your lolly bag again Kluganis.
Peter
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Mustapha Mond
21 Oct 2014, 11:05 AM
Kluganis, if you have not looked lately or just plain do not know how the globe looks.

We are on the same time line as asia.

When the sun goes down Kluganis the power is no longer generated by the sun.


How does a super intelligent person like yourself propose to supply energy to 2 billion people when the sun goes down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load_power_plant

You require a "base" load plant.

Now the cheapest form of base load is Nuke plant.

Talk all the green global warming mumbo jumbo fuzzy feel good crap you like but those are the fact Kluganis.

China is building 150 nuke plants.

So you want to send them solar power??

You really have bought the dream.

Wake up.

Peter

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1591984/china-plans-be-world-leader-nuclear-power-2020?page=all

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-18/french-nuclear-regulator-says-china-cooperation-lacking.html

The nice man has his hand in your lolly bag again Kluganis.
Peter
You normally store it in a hydro facility.

Back to Iceland - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/11173723/Didcot-fire-raises-risk-of-winter-blackouts-and-soaring-prices.html

Back to solar deserts - we may not be there yet, but it is a distinct possibility. Nulclear is great, but it is not cheap, and its not socially acceptable.
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Wow did not think my post about selling Solar Power to Asia would create such a debate.

While Solar is still developing in particular base load power generation, it has been done. Large solar plants now store the heat in heated water. Release it overnight in the form of steam to turn the turbine. This is how you get 24 hour base load power, we already have solar plants built like this around the world.

The technology is there and every year it gains in efficiency due to more efficient solar cells which are progressing at a rapid rate. Some new stunning breakthroughs have been made recently which could make solar the most efficient power source of all in future years.

While this will not stop Nuclear power and so on, it is a great addition for nations looking to reduce greenhouse gases and pollution and do not want the mass nuclear option. Energy security also plays into it, another nation being able to turn off the lights when ever they want is not ideal.

Certainly a large option for Australia and it should be pursued with great interest. It is one area I am disappointed in with the current government, they favour coal to much due to business interest. Australia is not yet ready for mass solar for base load but in the end I think consumers will force the change. With adoption of solar panels on roof tops large base load power stations will find it hard and harder to turn a profit.

The direction the US is moving is not a centralised power system, business want small local power generation. Each business powering itself is the new wave in the US. The next step is to take to this a household level and it will happen, the technology can be bought if you have the money to install it.

In the future each house will have its own power source with built in batteries to provide power for weeks should power generation fail or the source of power not be provided.

Battery technology is also progressing rapidly. New types of lithium batteries are being developed with can last years once charged and only take 15 minutes to fully charge. These are being designed for electric cars and mobile devices.

Advanced battery technology will revolutionise the planet. Imagine having a house with a backup battery system so should a natural disaster strike you will have power providing the system was not destroyed. Each house or building becomes self sufficient for long periods without power generation. Hospitals, Emergency services, communications all the modern technologies we need to survive would become almost impossible for any natural disaster to destroy. These devices could even be shielded to protect against solar flare events, so not to knock us back to the 1800's.

Transport could keep functioning on electric vehicles as once charged the batteries last along time and with power generation at each building no shortage of places to charge up. All this can have solar power built into the system as one form to charge the batteries.

If you could buy a commercial battery system that lasts weeks when charge by solar power, I would certainly install it at my house.
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