So what is the difference between owning an investment property and renting it out as a holiday rental or renting it out on air bnb? The BCC seem to have a problem with the name air bnb and the fact it doesn't involve breakfast. If you choose to rent out a room in your house why is it a problem if it is for a few days at a time?
So what is the difference between owning an investment property and renting it out as a holiday rental or renting it out on air bnb? The BCC seem to have a problem with the name air bnb and the fact it doesn't involve breakfast. If you choose to rent out a room in your house why is it a problem if it is for a few days at a time?
Good question. It's very council specific as well. For example most of the stuff that BCC is trying to get people for is perfectly OK in Logan and Ipswich.
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Onus of proof is on the owner. If you have multiple leases on a place which does not have planning approval as a multi-unit dwelling, you are stuffed.
What are you crapping on about miw, don't you ever read a post before you comment on it? When did I mention leases? You might insist on a lease every time someone moves into your dogbox but you are playing by the letter of the law. I was referring to people operating illegal boarding houses and I know what I'm talking about because my sister ran 2 back in the day.
The BCC will never pick up on a fraction of them and they need proof to act. No paperwork, no proof. You need to get out of your ivory tower once in a while and connect with the real world in the street where a multi billion dollar cash economy functions under the radar.
In short, you are deluded At length you are a gullible sheeple who thinks that just because the government says it's cracking down everyone is going throw up their hands in defeat. You're out of touch with reality in a big big way miw.
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Share houses are fine because there is a single lease with all the names on it.
Bullshit miw. Again, you haven't a clue. Have you ever lived in a share house? No, if you had, like I did in my youth you would know that usually only one or 2 people are on the lease and the rest come and go over time without ever signing. That is how the Chinese do it, no leases, no bank deposits. Just ads for rooms in a share house That they own. Often it's the actual home they live in but it could easily be an IP that is off the radar. Now stop talking out your arse about how council is quashing all that, thay haven't a hope in hell of stopping but a fraction of it.
What are you crapping on about miw, don't you ever read a post before you comment on it? When did I mention leases? You might insist on a lease every time someone moves into your dogbox but you are playing by the letter of the law. I was referring to people operating illegal boarding houses and I know what I'm talking about because my sister ran 2 back in the day.
The BCC will never pick up on a fraction of them and they need proof to act. No paperwork, no proof. You need to get out of your ivory tower once in a while and connect with the real world in the street where a multi billion dollar cash economy functions under the radar.
In short, you are deluded At length you are a gullible sheeple who thinks that just because the government says it's cracking down everyone is going throw up their hands in defeat. You're out of touch with reality in a big big way miw.
Tell that to the dozens, maybe hundreds of people who are up before the courts in Brisbane as we speak and the hundreds more who have already been issued with enforcement notices and folded. The BCC has gone very gloves off on this. Lots of people got away with things in the 1980s that you cannot get away with today. I'm sure there are still illegal boarding houses, but they are playing with fire. Just as there are people who knock off cars and get away with it --- until they don't.
Behaviour has obviously changed. Back early last year when this enforcement action was just starting, if I looked at the rental ads in the suburbs I watch, and then sorted by price, the bottom half was all rooms to rent. Looked just now and there were 4, and it looked as if they were all legit.
It's 30 years since the mid-1980s in case you haven't noticed. If there are more than 5 unrelated people living on the premises and you don't have paperwork, you are just as stuffed as if you *do* have paperwork - in fact more so, because it's possible to be above-board if you do have paperwork.
BTW I am not saying this is good. It will be pushing up accommodation prices for the people who can least afford it.
NOTE ALSO that there is a new town plan in 2014 which clarifies a lot about *rooming houses* which is where you *can* have multiple leases in a single dwelling, but the accommodation has to meet building regs and fire regs that normal rentals do not have to meet, as well have facilities like a 7kg washing machine. (!!).
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Bullshit miw. Again, you haven't a clue. Have you ever lived in a share house? No, if you had, like I did in my youth you would know that usually only one or 2 people are on the lease and the rest come and go over time without ever signing. That is how the Chinese do it, no leases, no bank deposits. Just ads for rooms in a share house That they own. Often it's the actual home they live in but it could easily be an IP that is off the radar. Now stop talking out your arse about how council is quashing all that, thay haven't a hope in hell of stopping but a fraction of it.
Yes. Back in the 1980s I lived in share houses. We had arrangements exactly as you describe. These days it is standard practice to have all residents on the lease, and if my agent finds people not on the lease living at the premises, or evidence of more people than are on the lease living on the premises, then the tenants get breached. Strangely what happens much more often is that there are tenants on the lease who don't actually live there. You might like to have a guess why that might be........
Too many cars parked all over the footpaths and unkempt yards annoy the neighbours, who then dob them in.
Yep.
That's why I'm surprised someone hasn't dobed them in and they've been shut down - some people love dobbing. One house has cars parked all over the front yard. As a result no grass grows, ruts form and it turns into an ugly dust bowl. I don't like dobing but I'd be inclined to have a word to the tenants if I lived next door to this eyesore.
The house across the road from me could be breaking the regs. There appears to be 3 families living there. But they're friendly, park on the street etc. No chance of them getting dobed in. It does appear that someone living there owns it though by the renovations and work on the garden. They're not students either.
There's a house a few streets away with a caravan on the street with people living in it, for probably the last six months. It has power connected to it and is propped up to be level. The house is very presentable, but I'm still surprised some busy body hasn't dobbed them in.
That's why I'm surprised someone hasn't dobed them in and they've been shut down - some people love dobbing. One house has cars parked all over the front yard. As a result no grass grows, ruts form and it turns into an ugly dust bowl. I don't like dobing but I'd be inclined to have a word to the tenants if I lived next door to this eyesore.
The house across the road from me could be breaking the regs. There appears to be 3 families living there. But they're friendly, park on the street etc. No chance of them getting dobed in. It does appear that someone living there owns it though by the renovations and work on the garden. They're not students either.
There's a house a few streets away with a caravan on the street with people living in it, for probably the last six months. It has power connected to it and is propped up to be level. The house is very presentable, but I'm still surprised some busy body hasn't dobbed them in.
It will devalue houses in the area by 10% to 20% - which makes the offending house a good buy, so much upside and the neighbours will love you for just having a nice mown lawn in the front yard.
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It will devalue houses in the area by 10% to 20% - which makes the offending house a good buy, so much upside and the neighbours will love you for just having a nice mown lawn in the front yard.
That's a great idea. Dob them into council. Wait for a forced sale due to the million dollar fine and buy it for a song.
Will you help me block off the street on auction day so I'm the only bidder? You'll have to wear a fluro vest and pretend to be from roadworks or the power company or something.
That's a great idea. Dob them into council. Wait for a forced sale due to the million dollar fine and buy it for a song.
Will you help me block off the street on auction day so I'm the only bidder? You'll have to wear a fluro vest and pretend to be from roadworks or the power company or something.
A white Dr No protective suit with nuclear logos carrying a Geiger Counter ticking wildly would be a better option although a bomb squad outfit with a police dog on a leash would work almost as well.
Hardly a new idea to buy the worst house in the street but it can happen. In fact I often attend open homes and I'm staggered at how badly presented some houses are, particularly rented homes where the tenants don't want the house to be sold.
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This is one of many reasons why I'm getting rather fed up with the country I was born in and am a citizen of. This unwarranted intrusion into our lives by the 3 levels of government, backed up with utterly brutal punishments and an ever more powerful police force. It's really starting to intrude on virtually every aspect of life.
Yet if your a real scumbag, it's actually hard to get a jail sentence, but they have the good citizens by the balls.
Yeah yeah, I know there are legal means of achieving these things but realistically they cost a ton of money, time and effort. Does the government really need to micro manage every aspect of out lives?
Who cares if someone rents a room out on airBNB now and then.
And as far as getting involved in someone else's residential situation, the government should be staying out of something which doesn't concern it.
There are many reasons, it is just you are not in the industry and have no experience, it would take a very long time to explain it to you.
But in a simple form why don't you cook in your bathroom, park your car in your bedroom and shit in your kitchen, then store your rubbish in your dining room and eat diner in your front garden.
Then rent your laundry out for someone to rebuild gear boxes.
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