If it was here they'd just make them redundant! True - it should be part of the KPIs to keep yourself trained up. I guess the problem too is the cost of certification as well, it's an industry in itself
Indeed it is, although most of the certifications I was trying to get people to do were free except for the time it took to do them, and we would have actually paid for the ones that were not.
The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off. --Gloria Steinem AREPS™
But wages are now falling doc, for the first time in history. Was that part of the plan ?
And unemployment at twelve year highs.
Do you think all the collapse of industries like production and manufacturing to name a couple, are the result of our wages being too high doc ?
Do you think cheap asain labour will continue to take our jobs as it is doing now ?
What will stop this from happening , both now and into the future ?
How important do you think jobs are to an economy ? and don't you see we have a very serious problem arising, or is this just all part of ' the cycle' ?
What about rents falling too, you live in Sydney in a house owned by a bank somewhere to whom you pay rent in the form of interest. You have to wonder who is actually the landlord here making any real return. care to name some surrounding areas and we will have a look how the rents are going.
I will show you where rents are falling in every capital city, from Sydneys Northern beaches and eastern suburbs all the way to Perth and evrywhere in between. And with building going ape on a level never seen before in Australia at a time when Indutries and jobs are disappearing on a level never seen before, what could possible go wrong......
My story as a contractor at IBM Australia – I worked for IBM eighteen months ago and my contract was cut short by IBM two months early.
I started another 6 month, hourly paid, PAYG contract with IBM through an agency recently but decided to leave early after working 68 hours (9 working days at 7.5hrs) with 2 days enforced leave, no email or intranet for the first week.
I have been paid for 13 hours only (the hours worked on the first two days of the contract). When I queried I was referred to the:
“No Compensation” clauses on Page 7, this indicates that “Should the Contractor for any reason, not complete the term of the assignment and have been engaged by agency for more than 10 working days, then agency shall not be obliged to pay any fee to the Contractor for the final 10 days worked by the Contractor”.
My story as a contractor at IBM Australia – I worked for IBM eighteen months ago and my contract was cut short by IBM two months early.
I started another 6 month, hourly paid, PAYG contract with IBM through an agency recently but decided to leave early after working 68 hours (9 working days at 7.5hrs) with 2 days enforced leave, no email or intranet for the first week.
I have been paid for 13 hours only (the hours worked on the first two days of the contract). When I queried I was referred to the:
“No Compensation” clauses on Page 7, this indicates that “Should the Contractor for any reason, not complete the term of the assignment and have been engaged by agency for more than 10 working days, then agency shall not be obliged to pay any fee to the Contractor for the final 10 days worked by the Contractor”.
So what's your point? Do you feel you were hard done by? Had you read your contract before taking the role, and thus were aware of that clause? Also why did you decide to quit after only a few days?
For Aussie property bears, "denial", is not just a long river in North Africa.....
Jokes aside though it was expensive to holiday overseas, the cost of imported goods, jewellery, almost everything was sky high.
I have the solution to your gem and jewellery woes in that case - buy locally mined and produced. Australian jewellery craftsmen are artisans who take great care and pride in their work. Compare it with the incredibly cheap but often sub-standard stuff churned out overseas by millions of unfortunate coolies sitting cross-legged on a hard concrete floor, getting paid about a bowl of rice a day. Locally crafted Australian stuff is much better. This message was a free advertisment
Outraged defence personnel have slammed the government over their 1.5 per cent pay rise, but workers in other federal government agencies may fare worse.
Centrelink and Medicare staff face losing many work conditions for a raise of one per cent, while the Australian Crime Commission has been offered no increase, the Community and Public Sector Union says.
There are some people who seem angry and continuously look for conflict. Walk away, the battle they are fighting isn't with you, it's with themselves.
The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is not enough of anything to satisfy all who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics. ~ Thomas Sowell.
Who was the fool, who the wise man, who the beggar or the Emperor? Whether rich or poor, all are equal in death.
Still sounds like they (the ADF people) are getting pay *increases* to me??? And those government drones in those public service departments are lucky they get paid at all, given their cushy public service union sponsored work conditions - the highest layer of welfare really..... Expect to see lots of noise from the APU for a while I reckon - one of the last bastions of the 1970s style Aussie industrial relations era.
Regardless of all this, still no evidence of actual "lower pay" (in nominal terms) anywhere there as per the thread title?
Still sounds like they (the ADF people) are getting pay *increases* to me??? And those government drones in those public service departments are lucky they get paid at all, given their cushy public service union sponsored work conditions - the highest layer of welfare really..... Expect to see lots of noise from the APU for a while I reckon - one of the last bastions of the 1970s style Aussie industrial relations era.
Regardless of all this, still no evidence of actual "lower pay" (in nominal terms) anywhere there as per the thread title?
Here you go Sydneyite - not quite what you were asking to see but below inflation pay rises are effectively a pay cut over time anyway..
Quote:
TONY Abbott has signalled an across-the-board reduction in public service wages, warning nobody should expect a better deal than the real-terms pay cut imposed on Defence personnel.
The Defence Remuneration Tribunal yesterday approved a below-inflation 1.5 per cent pay rise for military personnel each year for three years, in a move branded “insulting” by defence advocates.
ADF members also will lose benefits, including a “stand-down” day around Christmas and “extra recreation leave” as approved by a commander.
Australia’s inflation rate is about 2.3 per cent and the Reserve Bank aims to maintain it between 2 per cent and 3 per cent.
The Prime Minister, asked today to defend the wage offer, said there would be “very tight pay restraint across the public sector”.
He said repairing the federal budget meant that all employees of the federal government needed to exercise restraint, and that the defence pay deal was an indication of what all public servants could expect over the next few years.
I must ask my brother-in-law about it - he works with youth from broken homes, pretty sure the federal government is the employer. Is he another one of those bludging public servants I wonder?
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