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ThePauk
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18 Sep 2014, 01:55 PM
the information is readily available if you want to read it.

http://notrickszone.com/2013/04/11/russian-academy-of-sciences-experts-warn-of-imminent-cold-period-global-warming-is-a-marketing-trick/

Foxbat went to London and asked a number of academics at a function, unanimously they said we are due an ice age.

But you fuckwits keep talking shit as usual.

Peter

But of course if Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse don't give you the news report you just could not believe it.

Yah Mickey, it's the daily global warming show with your hosts Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. Yah

So predictable.
Quite correct, the Holocene will end and the home planet will return to its majority state of glaciation. The issue is the tipping points, or triggers for the onset of the next ice age and it just may turn out that the decoupling of CO2 from temp is it.
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He claims that the climatic changes are characterized by cycles and have nothing to do in any way with the activities of man.” - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/04/11/russian-academy-of-sciences-experts-warn-of-imminent-cold-period-global-warming-is-a-marketing-trick/#sthash.nmAZpe8z.dpuf


There are climate cycles. The next ice age is due in 10,000 years, maybe less.

However if Man frees a load of carbon and pumps it into the atmosphere, that will create a larger heat input. According to Arrhenius CO2 560 ppmv will be enough to prevent a future ice age.

If CO2 gets to 1,000 ppmv however then Man faces extinction.
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18 Sep 2014, 02:38 PM


There are climate cycles. The next ice age is due in 10,000 years, maybe less.

However if Man frees a load of carbon and pumps it into the atmosphere, that will create a larger heat input. According to Arrhenius CO2 560 ppmv will be enough to prevent a future ice age.

If CO2 gets to 1,000 ppmv however then Man faces extinction.
10,000? that would make the Holocene the longest warm period on record as we are already 12,000 years in.
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No, there is a major warm cycle about every 120 thousand years. We are in a major warm cycle. Between these there are minor warm cycles which are shorter and less warm.

The average surface temperature is down 8 C in the depths of a cold cycle.
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Zero is coming...

Funny how a tax will fix this cycle.
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18 Sep 2014, 02:55 PM
No, there is a major warm cycle about every 120 thousand years. We are in a major warm cycle. Between these there are minor warm cycles which are shorter and less warm.

The average surface temperature is down 8 C in the depths of a cold cycle.
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EEmain was 15,000 years long, so approx 3,000 left in the Holocene, not 10,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian
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17 Sep 2014, 05:31 PM
The Holocene will end and the real issue is when and what will be the tipping points. It just may turn out that a sudden CO2 increase may be it as we observe the decoupling of CO2 and temp.
Lots of things could turn out. The fact is this science is incredibly complex and our understanding is still relatively in its infancy.

Don't get me wrong. I'm completely convinced that we have seen very unusual warming recently and Occam's razor tells me that the most likely culprit for at least a good part of that warming is anthropogenic CO2, because (a) that is what has observably changed and (b) there are credible mechanisms by which CO2 can cause warming.

What chaps my butt is when pressure groups loosely associated with scientists have the gall to say that they know what happens from here on in and furthermore what should be done about it. That is absolutely not their call, and they are trying to use fear to push through agendas which are only vaguely climate-related. It's like Tony Abbott saying we are all going to be killed by terrorists and therefore everyone is gonna have to have a blue scorpion tattooed on their arse.
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18 Sep 2014, 06:54 PM
Lots of things could turn out. The fact is this science is incredibly complex and our understanding is still relatively in its infancy.

Don't get me wrong. I'm completely convinced that we have seen very unusual warming recently and Occam's razor tells me that the most likely culprit for at least a good part of that warming is anthropogenic CO2, because (a) that is what has observably changed and (b) there are credible mechanisms by which CO2 can cause warming.

What chaps my butt is when pressure groups loosely associated with scientists have the gall to say that they know what happens from here on in and furthermore what should be done about it. That is absolutely not their call, and they are trying to use fear to push through agendas which are only vaguely climate-related. It's like Tony Abbott saying we are all going to be killed by terrorists and therefore everyone is gonna have to have a blue scorpion tattooed on their arse.
yep .. i believe in the evidence of man made climate change... i dont believe in the taxation of it ..

two separate issues which are thrown in the same bag to confuse the debate and stifle progress , IMO ..
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18 Sep 2014, 07:09 PM
yep .. i believe in the evidence of man made climate change... i dont believe in the taxation of it ..

two separate issues which are thrown in the same bag to confuse the debate and stifle progress , IMO ..
No it's part of the same thing. No one wants new taxes, but the reality is that to change the behaviour of consumers governments have to change existing tax benefits and maybe take them away from some fuels and award them to what they see as the solution. Hopefully that will be tax neutral.

If they don't do that people won't change their behaviour.
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18 Sep 2014, 07:58 PM
No it's part of the same thing. No one wants new taxes, but the reality is that to change the behaviour of consumers governments have to change existing tax benefits and maybe take them away from some fuels and award them to what they see as the solution. Hopefully that will be tax neutral.

If they don't do that people won't change their behaviour.
Or just purchase GM Small Nuclear Reactors, plug them in beside the coal plants and turn the coal plants off. 79 SNR on us navy ships now.
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