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Why are properties in nowhere suburbs so expensive?
Topic Started: 11 Sep 2014, 05:55 PM (3,466 Views)
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Zero is coming...

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Guest responses only mmmmm

I think you have all (well the one uni student employed by the REIA ) have proved my theorem, Ozzie property is a crock of shit!!!

The thought of how this will end is literally palpable.

Shadow, castle...............any last words?????
skamy
11 Sep 2014, 06:07 PM
Very reputable Skamy?!

You are better than this, don't embarrass yourself by posting rubbish like this.

Let me get an article that moops authored and post a link to that shall I?

Then we can both be credible :bl:
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12 Sep 2014, 02:29 AM
Guest responses only mmmmm

I think you have all (well the one uni student employed by the REIA ) have proved my theorem, Ozzie property is a crock of shit!!!

The thought of how this will end is literally palpable.

Shadow, castle...............any last words?????

Very reputable Skamy?!

You are better than this, don't embarrass yourself by posting rubbish like this.

Let me get an article that moops authored and post a link to that shall I?

Then we can both be credible :bl:
It was not me who posted the rubbish, you were the one who told the porkie pies and got caught out.

I was just showing you that there is to be a new train line there in answer to your question as to why it was popular.
But you will just ignore that in the same way as you ignored the fact that you had the distance from the city wrong.
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11 Sep 2014, 08:15 PM
bull creek is REALLY well located for surbanite now IMO.... up the road to train or drive straight to city, garden city up the road, fiona stanley on the other side of the freeway, some good schools (rossmoyne is typically the best performing public school ) , bull creek shopping center not bad , murdoch university, canning river foreshore, and not too far from willetton sports club, lakeside, bibra lake, melville glades golf club , straight down leach hwy or south street to freo ....


but it really feels like a dated suburb with horrible planning ... with better frontages or more up to date houses its a great little place
True, but it's always been pricy, and much of the infrastructure is new.
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Chris, I think you need to acknowledge you made a significant error in your OP regarding the location of Donvale. I enjoy reading your posts, but accuracy matters.

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Dr Watson
12 Sep 2014, 10:23 AM
Chris, I think you need to acknowledge you made a significant error in your OP regarding the location of Donvale. I enjoy reading your posts, but accuracy matters.

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Yes Doc, admittedly it was a stupid mistake. I think I did a round trip route calc and got 40 something Km's and rounded it down as an approx.

Still though even at 23km from the cbd the prices are still out of kilter and the best explanation thus far from Skamy is that they are building a new train line there???

I think one point (all be it a significant point) was held onto and the heart of the discussion bulldozed for a reason. There is a legitimate disconnect between location an prices and whenever it is discussed we appear to be railroaded into petty and trivial arguments.
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I'm not sure how relevant these crime stats are (they are admittedly a bit too old) but they do seem to suggest Donvale is within a relatively safer area:

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11 Sep 2014, 11:06 PM
No Frank, they just believe they are entitled to a 1/4 acre 5km from the CBD. Anything else isn't good enough.
Or how about a 2 bed house on 500sqm 20ks from city?, and a railway line like in any civilised and LIVABLE city in the world for much less than 16 times my 'median' income.
I now suspect in Australia that the 'haves' including government at all levels have an inbuilt psychopathic need to inflict one misery after another on those that are apparently beneath them, even those that work their arses off.
No. you wont have real public transport (one bus per hour if it turns up is not public transport), Yes you will have to sit in your car for an hour or two each way to work and have the added benefit of paying the running costs of 2 cars also.
No you wont have green leafy parks, they are reserved for the 'chosen' few, you will get a scruby footy oval and somewhere for the dog to shit.
No, you wont live near the beach or anywhere that gives you the Australian 'lifestyle'.
Forget restaurants and cafes' you will also get a hair shirt version of these overpriced outings also, lets say a Mdicks on on corner and a KfuckedChiken on the other.. hows that for lifestyle? (check out some of the new outer suburbs in Melbourne and this is the f'ing truth) and guess what? In 20 or 30 years time these suburbs will be no better, just the same shit replicated maybe a Pizza hut will turn up if the population gets big enough.
The problem with the 'haves' and the cheer leaders of the bull market is that they have this nasty, inbuilt factitious attitude to those who are left behind for one reason or another, like jobs offshored, or chroinc illness or just too young to have gotten in for the free ride. IT makes them feel important and clever. All in all, a bunch of fuck sticks.

I have spent time in one of the other most liveable cities in the world, Vienna, and I can tell you it is far more liveable and infinitely cheaper to buy or rent than Melbourne or for that matter any Aus city. Everyone has access to transport, affordable accommodation, parks etc etc.. dito for many other issues. Even the beer is better and half the price of Aus.
Have also spent time in Tokyo, and can you believe, a city of 20million (Tokyo, Kawasaki, Yokohama is one big piece) works better than Melbourne's sprawl of 4million and offers a much better deal for the normal working stiff, ok you have to live in a flat but walk out the door and everything is there, no ferrals or bogans either for your money.
For what it is, Australia is well overpriced and does not deliver on its promises, ie The Aus lifestyle, its all bullshit. 20 years ago it did, not now.
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13 Sep 2014, 08:58 PM
Or how about a 2 bed house on 500sqm 20ks from city?, and a railway line like in any civilised and LIVABLE city in the world for much less than 16 times my 'median' income.
I now suspect in Australia that the 'haves' including government at all levels have an inbuilt psychopathic need to inflict one misery after another on those that are apparently beneath them, even those that work their arses off.
No. you wont have real public transport (one bus per hour if it turns up is not public transport), Yes you will have to sit in your car for an hour or two each way to work and have the added benefit of paying the running costs of 2 cars also.
No you wont have green leafy parks, they are reserved for the 'chosen' few, you will get a scruby footy oval and somewhere for the dog to shit.
No, you wont live near the beach or anywhere that gives you the Australian 'lifestyle'.
Forget restaurants and cafes' you will also get a hair shirt version of these overpriced outings also, lets say a Mdicks on on corner and a KfuckedChiken on the other.. hows that for lifestyle? (check out some of the new outer suburbs in Melbourne and this is the f'ing truth)
The problem with the 'haves' and the cheer leaders of the bull market is that they have this nasty, inbuilt factitious attitude to those who are left behind for one reason or another, like jobs offshored, or chroinc illness or just too young to have gotten in for the free ride. IT makes them feel important and clever. All in all, a bunch of dislikeable persons.

I have spent time in one of the other most liveable cities in the world, Vienna, and I can tell you it is far more liveable and infinitely cheaper to buy or rent than Melbourne or for that matter any Aus city. Everyone has access to transport, affordable accommodation, parks etc etc.. dito for many other issues. Even the beer is better and half the price of Aus.
Have also spent time in Tokyo, and can you believe, a city of 20million (Tokyo, Kawasaki, Yokohama is one big piece) works better than Melbourne's sprawl of 4million and offers a much better deal for the normal working stiff, ok you have to live in a flat but walk out the door and everything is there, no ferrals or bogans either for your money.
For what it is, Australia is well overpriced and does not deliver on its promises, ie The Aus lifestyle, its all bullshit. 20 years ago it did, not now.
Its called the Transmutation. Cheap RE is a historical footnote.

Thats why most people in the future will be renting.

Owning RE is no longer meant for joe six pack.

Its meant for the Business and Wealthy classes.

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