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Clive Palmer calls Chinese government "mongrels" and "bastards" in ABC Q&A tirade
Topic Started: 19 Aug 2014, 09:58 AM (2,680 Views)
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Clive Palmer blasts China on Q&A

August 19, 2014 - 8:30AM

Clive Palmer has delivered an extraordinary tirade against Australia's biggest trading partner, describing the Chinese government as "mongrels" who shoot their own people.

In a broad spray on national television, the maverick MP accused the "communist Chinese government" of trying to take over Australia's ports to steal the nation's natural resources.

"I don't mind standing up against the Chinese bastards and stopping them from doing it," he told ABC's Q&A program on Monday.

The Palmer United Party leader is embroiled in a legal battle with Chinese state-owned company CITIC Pacific, which has accused the mining magnate of siphoning off $12 million in funds.

Mr Palmer has strenuously denied accusations his company Mineralogy misused CITIC Pacific's cash to finance PUP's federal election campaign.

He said the matter was before the Supreme Court this week and he'd keep up the fight against the "Chinese mongrels".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clive-palmer-blasts-china-on-qa-20140819-3dx15.html
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This is like the Kevin fuck moment...perhaps thought out to give Clive balls or perhaps just raw emotion.

Anyway, I think his reference to the mongrels are just the ones he is dealing with but it did not come accross like that.
Perhaps, "these x company mongrels......." Would have been a better script.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-19/clive-palmer-attacks-chinese-government/5679900

Either way he looks like a man under pressure, but to that point he was calm and doing well (imo)
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The thing about Clive Palmer is his knack for grabbing headlines effortlessly and frequently. Given so much media coverage, and his power in the Senate, he has effectively become the Opposition leader. Who is listening to Bill Shorten these days? Who gives a toss about Billy when Clive is so much more colourful and entertaining? That Palmer might have gone into parliament purely to gain attention and admiration for his own needs is besides the point. He's providing journalists with copy and subeditors with headlines ... and he's drowning out the ALP in the process.
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt — Bertrand Russell
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19 Aug 2014, 10:40 AM
The thing about Clive Palmer is his knack for grabbing headlines effortlessly and frequently. Given so much media coverage, and his power in the Senate, he has effectively become the Opposition leader. Who is listening to Bill Shorten these days? Who gives a toss about Billy when Clive is so much more colourful and entertaining? That Palmer might have gone into parliament purely to gain attention and admiration for his own needs is besides the point. He's providing journalists with copy and subeditors with headlines ... and he's drowning out the ALP in the process.
True - I can't even remember the last time I saw Bill Shorten on Live TV. He's a bit part player - when he does those straight to camera pieces calling out Tony Abbott its pretty uninspiring. I'd say Jacqui Lambie has a better chance of being next PM than Bill Shorten.

Clive on the other hand was very calm last night, he gave a great answer regarding the proposed benefit changes that would have won over a few people to the PUP. His reaction to questions about the election funding however, were not convincing. I'd say this might catch him out and if he slips up then the knives will be out I'd say
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David Llewellyn-Smith's slightly over-analytical and academic take on last night's outburst:
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Pollies lined up to bash the big fella for his outburst and rightly so. The problem is, it is they that are responsible for it.

As a political entity, Clive Palmer is a nothing more than a vested interest and populist. He is in politics to wreak his vengeance upon the Liberal Party that spurned him, as well as secure his own interests. The best option for him to do so is adopt the most obviously popular policy options on just about everything, in parallel with guiding policy in favour of his own interests.

But Palmer is operating on fertile political ground. Because the past and current government have failed to explain to Australians why their standards of living have stalled, blaming it instead on each other, a large gap has opened up between the expectations of the polity and what government can deliver.
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As the Australian economy labours through the early years of its lost decade, which is all about falling terms of trade and income, nobody in government has explained what’s going on.

The Gillard government spent three years bashing “oligarchs” and throwing blandishments at the polity for failing to lift its confidence. It was a horribly self-defeating narrative given it was the Gillard government that had sold Australia out to the very same oligarchs in butchering the mining tax, not to mention that telling pissed off people to cheer up is the quickest way known to make them angry.

Before and since the election of the Abbott government, the narrative has hung swung 180 degrees to blaming trade unions and taxes for killing business investment. That is rubbish as well, of course, and as the Abbott Government trudges through a peripheral agenda and standards of living again refuse to improve, the polity is getting increasingly angry and disillusioned once more.
Finally, he concludes that:
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One can’t be sure whether Labor or the Liberals actually understand the magnitude of the challenge they face in rebooting income growth for households. The one bipartisan policy that rather suggests that they do is very high immigration that is really designed to hide the falls in our standards of living by supporting aggregate demand at the price per capita measures.

But that comes with its own risk. Immigration is too high for unemployment at current levels and it is exacerbating a vociferous housing bubble that worries people on behalf of their children. There is a danger that foreign investors of all kinds will increasingly be blamed for the failure of our own leader’s in addressing the real economic issues.

Enter Clive Palmer, with his easy giveaways, defense of the locals and personal battle with Chinese investors (right or wrong). He’s operating on fertile ground tilled by the dishonest economic narratives of both sides of politics and set to grow.
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DLS is wrong. Population does not solely drive house prices. As PF and I have been discussing, falling populations in many of our capital cities has not meant a fall in house prices for a variety of reasons.
Easy credit, denial, delusion, tax incentives etc are more a factor in our housing market.
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Dr Watson
19 Aug 2014, 10:40 AM
The thing about Clive Palmer is his knack for grabbing headlines effortlessly and frequently. Given so much media coverage, and his power in the Senate, he has effectively become the Opposition leader. Who is listening to Bill Shorten these days? Who gives a toss about Billy when Clive is so much more colourful and entertaining? That Palmer might have gone into parliament purely to gain attention and admiration for his own needs is besides the point. He's providing journalists with copy and subeditors with headlines ... and he's drowning out the ALP in the process.
He is the master of popular politics. Better than Hanson.

His 'policies' help the down down trodden that aspire to be like him. Youse can all nd get pucked - he'd be proud!
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The man has billions of reasons to be proud. What we saw was ego, pure and raw. I was glad to see it, however his choice of words was poor.
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Government ministers unite in condemnation of Clive Palmer's 'hugely damaging' comments about China

August 19, 2014 - 12:36PM

Senior Abbott government ministers and the opposition have united in blasting Clive Palmer over his televised tirade against China, saying it damages Australia.

But Senator Jacqui Lambie has come out in support of her leader, asserting that Australia's defence policy should take account of the threat of a "Chinese Communist invasion".

Treasurer Joe Hockey, Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop all attacked Mr Palmer after the MP and leader of the Palmer United Party used an appearance on ABC TV's Q&A program on Monday night to describe the Chinese as ''bastards'' and ''mongrels'' who shoot their own people.

Mr Hockey said Mr Palmer's outburst could hurt Australia's relationship with China.

''I think it is hugely damaging for Mr Palmer to make those sort of comments,'' Mr Hockey told reporters on Tuesday.

Mr Hockey said Mr Palmer had been a big beneficiary of Chinese investment in Australia.

''He is in a very obvious legal dispute with his Chinese partners but I'd say to Mr Palmer, please don't bring down the rest of Australia because of your biases.''

Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce agrees Mr Palmer's comments were inappropriate.

''You can't just drop your bundle on national television,'' he said.

Ms Bishop described Mr Palmer's outburst as "offensive, unnecessary and unacceptable for a member of Parliament".

Labor's shadow treasurer Chris Bowen said Mr Palmer had rightly received criticism for his comments about China.

''The Chinese-Australia relationship is a vitally important one. I think all Australians understand that,'' he said.

''I think Mr Palmer's comments were unhelpful in that regard and while it's a matter for him they're not comments that could be in any way endorsed or agreed with.''

In a strongly worded statement on Tuesday supporting Mr Palmer for his comments over the military threat of China, Senator Lambie said ‘‘the price of liberty is eternal vigilance’’.

‘‘If anybody thinks that we should have a national security and defence policy, which ignores the threat of a Chinese Communist invasion – you’re delusional and got rocks in your head,’’ her statement said.

‘‘The Communist Chinese military capacity and level of threat to the western world democracies is at an unprecedented and historical high.’’

China is Australia's largest trading partner, with two-way trade hitting nearly $151 billion in 2013.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-ministers-unite-in-condemnation-of-clive-palmers-hugely-damaging-comments-about-china-20140819-3dxef.html
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