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Foreign migrants take 95% of Australian jobs created since 2011
Topic Started: 8 Aug 2014, 05:45 PM (2,423 Views)
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/call-for-migration-rort-crackdown-as-data-reveals-foreign-workers-snare-net-job-growth-20140807-3d9ma.html

Immigration experts Dr Bob Birrell and Dr Ernest Healy have obtained fresh Australian Bureau of Statistics information showing that 380,000 arrivals to Australia since 2011 had found jobs. But over the same period, net job growth in Australia was only 400,000.

…Confidential Immigration Department documents obtained by Fairfax Media reveal that many of those foreign workers who have gained permanent residency in Australia through skilled migration programs are likely to have first arrived as students in suspected fraudulent international education schemes operating between 2006 and 2010.
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Mr Morrison said on Thursday he was as serious about stopping visa fraud as he was about stopping the boats and conceded that fraud in Australia’s visa program could be costing Australians jobs.

…the integrity of Australia’s visa and migration programs was “incredibly important”…

“The skilled migration program is two thirds of our permanent migration program…it’s an important program for Australia too, to have a proper skilled migration to Australia which has a process with integrity and that people don’t rort it.”
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I arrived to Australia on a genuine 457 visa few years ago. My skillpool and experience is rather rare and I do not mind if Australia will get more people with a similar features across the industries.

Now I am unemployed and applying for jobs overseas:

A) Europe – recruiters say that it is extremely difficult to get a job without EU work permit: they take almost unskilled, but Europeans.
B) USA – similar to Europe
C) Singapore -they say you should speak Mandarin. This is another type of passport restrictions in favour of Chinese market.

So everyone is protecting labour market. 3 years ago I was getting at least 1 call from recruiters inviting me somewhere in Europe, Singapore or Middle East. These days it is NONE. They say companies do not want to deal with immigration as processes became too hard to get a visa, so they prefer locals, even though they can not add event 30% of value I can add.

Why Australia is behind everyone in this job competition? The education base is great in Australia. People are smart. Living standards, climate etc are much better than anywhere else. So I suggest RESIDE policy for residents:
- Retrain
- Educate
- Support those who retrain
- Incentivise
- Develop
- End long Centerlink allowances

After school hours shall be free for working mums. Australian women are very disadvantaged comparing to those in USA (illegal Mexican babysitters), Europe (Western European babysitters on below min salary), Singapore (absolutely legal poor Philippino maids), Middle Eastern (babysitters, maids and drivers on $300 per month on 6 days a week 12 hours working days). Ozzy women has NONE of this. Australia shall choose how to compete with other economies on labour.
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Is it just me or are you looking at this all wrong ?? You have looked at the 400k jobs and the 380k immigration numbers and came up with the conclusion that skilled migrants have taken 95% of our jobs??

Considering unemployment was at 6% or lower during this period I would think these people have migrated to fill roles that couldn't be filled by anyone in Oz in the first place either by qualification or even the fact that there just wasn't enough people nationally to cover the employment numbers required.

It could therefore be argued that 20k of unskilled jobs have been created off the back of the 380k skilled workers who migrated here e.g. They all needed to be catered for with housing, clothes, food etc.

Tell me if I'm way off here...........
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Oh it's far worse than that. Records clearly indicate that since 1788 almost 100% of jobs created have gone to immigrants.

It's just shocking, an absolute disgrace.

Lol.
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The problem of skilled migration, employers want a person with a degree and 5 years working experience in the field. There are graduates who before the skilled migration program would have landed those jobs and then built up their experience. The transition from University to employment is then broken.

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8 Aug 2014, 06:18 PM
The problem of skilled migration, employers want a person with a degree and 5 years working experience in the field. There are graduates who before the skilled migration program would have landed those jobs and then built up their experience. The transition from University to employment is then broken.

We should put a tax or levy on every skilled migrant or 457 visa to pay- help pay for the education of a local to do the job?
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peter fraser
8 Aug 2014, 06:13 PM
Oh it's far worse than that. Records clearly indicate that since 1788 almost 100% of jobs created have gone to immigrants.

It's just shocking, an absolute disgrace.

Lol.
We don't need anymore. We need to keep the jobs left for people here.

Another problem is, a lot of new Australians are undesirable and not screened properly.

Maybe start a poll, should we stop immigration, and see the results.
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Tri
8 Aug 2014, 05:48 PM


After school hours shall be free for working mums. Australian women are very disadvantaged comparing to those in USA (illegal Mexican babysitters), Europe (Western European babysitters on below min salary), Singapore (absolutely legal poor Philippino maids), Middle Eastern (babysitters, maids and drivers on $300 per month on 6 days a week 12 hours working days). Ozzy women has NONE of this. Australia shall choose how to compete with other economies on labour.
Oh FFS. Really? Good example of the dangers of mass immigration. You have no idea about the ethos of this country and I am very glad we have managed to get by without cheap imported slave labour up till now and long may it continue.
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Chris
8 Aug 2014, 06:03 PM
Is it just me or are you looking at this all wrong ?? You have looked at the 400k jobs and the 380k immigration numbers and came up with the conclusion that skilled migrants have taken 95% of our jobs??
No, it's not just you, it's the natural outcome of decades of fudged statistics. Those supposed 400k jobs are probably held by 900k people.
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