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Australia's coming jobs boom; A boom in in a sector which is one of our largest employers is going to create a lot of jobs.
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7 Aug 2014, 08:34 PM
Fuck me, I hope they're stronger today since those figures were in the wake of the 1990 recession - one of Australia's worst economic downturns and probably the most severe one since the great depression.

Making such a comparison with today and arguing that is proof of how good things are now is just dumb.
You could put a 1 in front of the quoted number and the numbers would still be underquoted, sad but true.

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7 Aug 2014, 08:34 PM
Fuck me, I hope they're stronger today since those figures were in the wake of the 1990 recession - one of Australia's worst economic downturns and probably the most severe one since the great depression.

Making such a comparison with today and arguing that is proof of how good things are now is just dumb.
Massive raised the issue of the 90s and because I was on the ABS site for employment I quickly cut and pasted it over - it was just for interest.

I also think a bit of gratitude for what we do have instead of the constant whining we here from the likes of Newjez and Perthite is a good thing every now and again.

Those figures from the 90s also blow away any delusions of negativity about the current Australian economy don't they?
However, some posters just wanna whine and cannot stand it when the clear light of day is shone on their negativity.

The truth is that there is significant construction already in planning and financed. Construction is a big employer and jobs will grow. This is not some silly conjecture this is factual. All you guys are doing is refusing to live in reality, you have been doing this since I first came on here.



Do you really believe that retail, construction, finance, tourism and all the other parts of the economy that have suffered as a result of the GFC will never recover? Despite all the evidence in increased approvals and increased financing, increased returns from the stock market, increasing exports, increasing government receipts etc etc. That would really be dumb wouldn't it?






Definition of a doom and gloomer from 1993
The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
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Massive raised the issue of the 90s and because I was on the ABS site for employment I quickly cut and pasted it over - it was just for interest.

I also think a bit of gratitude for what we do have instead of the constant whining we here from the likes of Newjez and Perthite is a good thing every now and again.


So....what is it you do that you feel is deserving of gratitude here?

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Those figures from the 90s also blow away any delusions of negativity about the current Australian economy don't they?
However, some posters just wanna whine and cannot stand it when the clear light of day is shone on their negativity.


Yes, I suppose in the way that having chronic arthritis is so positive because it isn't ebola. It seems like a very black and white veiw skamy - the economy is not currently in recession so that must mean everything is going great guns. It doesn't work that way, there are many shades of grey and at present the grey appears to have gotten darker. I think Newjez and Pethite put forth valid concerns that it would be unwise to simply dismiss. From time to time, everything falls into a pit, sometimes shallow, sometimes deep. Yes we always end up climbing back out again but it isn't realistic to pretend that the pit doesn't exist and that the fall doesn't hurt anybody- it's very real and lasting damage is done.

Also, don't forget that you may be ok yourself while suffering increases all around you. This is why history is littered with the heads of rich people on spikes - they have a tendency to insulate themselves and dismiss the rising poverty around them as the mere whining of the peasants. As far as they are concerned, if they are ok then everyone else must be just whinging.

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The truth is that there is significant construction already in planning and financed. Construction is a big employer and jobs will grow. This is not some silly conjecture this is factual. All you guys are doing is refusing to live in reality, you have been doing this since I first came on here.


The WA government seems to have taken some positive initiatives that other states have not and the benefits flow on. Their stance on the creation of affordable housing seems much better than anywhere else. The question is, will it be enough to offset the mining investment wind down?

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Do you really believe that retail, construction, finance, tourism and all the other parts of the economy that have suffered as a result of the GFC will never recover? Despite all the evidence in increased approvals and increased financing, increased returns from the stock market, increasing exports, increasing government receipts etc etc. That would really be dumb wouldn't it?


Yes it would be dumb which is why I don't believe it.
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So....what is it you do that you feel is deserving of gratitude here?




Yes, I suppose in the way that having chronic arthritis is so positive because it isn't ebola. It seems like a very black and white veiw skamy - the economy is not currently in recession so that must mean everything is going great guns. It doesn't work that way, there are many shades of grey and at present the grey appears to have gotten darker. I think Newjez and Pethite put forth valid concerns that it would be unwise to simply dismiss. From time to time, everything falls into a pit, sometimes shallow, sometimes deep. Yes we always end up climbing back out again but it isn't realistic to pretend that the pit doesn't exist and that the fall doesn't hurt anybody- it's very real and lasting damage is done.

Also, don't forget that you may be ok yourself while suffering increases all around you. This is why history is littered with the heads of rich people on spikes - they have a tendency to insulate themselves and dismiss the rising poverty around them as the mere whining of the peasants. As far as they are concerned, if they are ok then everyone else must be just whinging.




The WA government seems to have taken some positive initiatives that other states have not and the benefits flow on. Their stance on the creation of affordable housing seems much better than anywhere else. The question is, will it be enough to offset the mining investment wind down?




Yes it would be dumb which is why I don't believe it.
Unemployment in WA sits at 5% there is no grey here IMHO, that is a very enviable position. It is not any problem at all it is like somebody in a big rich house failing to appreciate or be grateful that they are not homeless. At less than 5% unemployment WA has to import workers. I know these figures will belie regional difficulties but talking down WAdoes not help these unemployed or underemployed nor those in jobs that rely on consumer sentiment.

WA also grew by 4% last year, an enviable figure by anyone's standards, yet all some people can do in whine that it is not growing at 7%. Slowing growth is NOT growing hardship.

Definition of a doom and gloomer from 1993
The last camp is made up of the doom-and-gloomers. Their slogan is "it's the end of the world as we know it". Right now they are convinced that debt is the evil responsible for all our economic woes and must be eliminated at all cost. Many doom-and-gloomers believe that unprecedented debt levels mean that we are on the precipice of a worse crisis than the Great Depression. The doom-and-gloomers hang on the latest series of negative economic data.
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