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The Gold Bubble... Just how badly have the silly goldbugs failed?
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Shadow
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Rastus2
1 Dec 2015, 08:24 PM
My 'thing' is not limited to shadow... although he manages to demonstrate qualities which I dislike greatly.

No, I don't hate his predictions... I do not like people who mislead about their own predictions and at the same time attack others for their predictions... the situation with Keen is just one example where he has attacked someone and the evidence he has used to compile his list is a joke... (have you even bothered to follow his hyperlinks to source his claims or just swallowed his list on face value ?).

You claim to be a scientist... how would the scientific community react to someone who claims to have predicted something, only to have been exposed as having adjusted the prediction (1 day later), and to have adjusted a chart with the prediction multiple times over the years behind people's back ? In my world (Medical Science) these people are mocked, tarred and feathered, then run out of town.... do they give those people pats on the back where you field of science operates ?
That's quite a strong emotional response that I seem to trigger for you.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Shadow
1 Dec 2015, 10:14 PM
That's quite a strong emotional response that I seem to trigger for you.

Actually, liars and frauds trigger that response from me... You just happen to be part of that group.
Strindberg
1 Dec 2015, 04:00 PM
I have some some sort of fetish for shadow.

There is plenty of evidence of fetishes on this forum.


since you are a fan of shady's out of context quotes... here is one for you.
Edited by Rastus2, 1 Dec 2015, 11:01 PM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Rastus2
1 Dec 2015, 11:00 PM
Actually, liars and frauds trigger that response from me... You just happen to be part of that group
I find it's better to approach things logically, rather than getting all emotional.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Shadow
1 Dec 2015, 11:17 PM
I find it's better to approach things logically, rather than getting all emotional.

I agree, which is why i am still calmly stating you are a liar and a fraud by your own admission (gloating).

Have a nice evening.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Rastus2
1 Dec 2015, 08:24 PM




What does it say ? That I can walk and chew gum at the same time, although probably not type very well on a tablet while walking perhaps ?






My 'thing' is not limited to shadow... although he manages to demonstrate qualities which I dislike greatly.

No, I don't hate his predictions... I do not like people who mislead about their own predictions and at the same time attack others for their predictions... the situation with Keen is just one example where he has attacked someone and the evidence he has used to compile his list is a joke... (have you even bothered to follow his hyperlinks to source his claims or just swallowed his list on face value ?).

You claim to be a scientist... how would the scientific community react to someone who claims to have predicted something, only to have been exposed as having adjusted the prediction (1 day later), and to have adjusted a chart with the prediction multiple times over the years behind people's back ? In my world (Medical Science) these people are mocked, tarred and feathered, then run out of town.... do they give those people pats on the back where you field of science operates ?


I am actually quite bullish on house prices, well I have been for a few years now... did you not notice ?

I can see a bottom for perth property going forward, just like I can see a top for sydney and melbourne... over the last 8 years, my bearishness was mostly for gold coast (where i live)... we had our crash of sorts... it's recovering now.




Thanks for your advice... I suggest you get back to your professional career and give advice a miss...

Perhaps it's advice best followed by yourself... your whole effort on the climate change and bank mortgage threads was a little bit of a joke Andrew... you seemed unable to actually take a position and would simply get confussed, saying you had to go away...

Tell me... have you made up your mind on human caused climate change ? Do you believe shaodw that banks can and never would use any of the triggers found in the mortgages of property investors to demand they sign a new mortgage ? or do you simply go with shadow's point of view because, unlike yourself, he did not give up arguing his side ?




Hmm.. I don't know if it's shadows strength... you are mixing up external factors and shadow as though he feeds off them... they are unrelated.


anyway,
A few days ago either you or somebody else appeared to prove that Shadow predicted Sydney house prices would be approaching 1 million by the end of 2015, and yet on you go as if he totally failed.



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Rastus2
1 Dec 2015, 11:47 PM
you are a liar and a fraud by your own admission (gloating)

Have a nice evening
I have neither lied nor committed fraud, nor admitted to either.

But thanks for the personal abuse - it demonstrates your emotional reaction quite nicely.

And I did have a nice evening. I used some of the money I'm saving on my loans to go out for dinner.
Edited by Shadow, 2 Dec 2015, 07:31 AM.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Andrew Judd
2 Dec 2015, 05:59 AM
A few days ago either you or somebody else appeared to prove that Shadow predicted Sydney house prices would be approaching 1 million by the end of 2015, and yet on you go as if he totally failed.



You neglected to respond to my question... how are people who revise the historg of predictions dealt with in your field ?

When someone mocks others for their 'failures' the bar is set by them by the failures they cite, and the evidence they source and cite.

Shadows bar is set high... one day spend some time going throuh his attack list on keen and examine exactly how precise it is... many things on the list are either unsubstantiated, out of context, were reliant upon another event to happen first, or simply not sourced... none the less, he felt happy to list failed predictions.

Shadows failee predictions list have been quie5ly erased... the prediction he and his puppets present was revised only 1 day later to be another lefel, and another time frame (12 months diff from memory)....

Sure, one of his darts hit the board close to bulls eye. I never said he torally failed... Howefer he has a record of rubbing others face in what he dlaims were their failed predictions while hiding his own failures.


You also neglected to answer my other questions... what is your position on human caused climate change and bank's ability to tnforce those terms if the value of property collapses and babks are looking to save themselves....
Shadow
2 Dec 2015, 07:30 AM
I have lied, committed fraud, but not admitted to either.

But thanks for the personality assesment

And I did have a nice evening. I used some of the money I'm saving on my loans to go out for dinner. (Gloat, gloat, gloat).

Sorry, i have the 'shadow quote' function selected, it shiws your posts out of context... i assume thiss is not a verbatum quote...

Like your blondie ignore function, only select people have it. :D
Edited by Rastus2, 2 Dec 2015, 07:51 AM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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Rastus2
2 Dec 2015, 07:41 AM
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Shadows failee predictions list have been quie5ly
another lefel
he torally failed... Howefer
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verbatum
You should really try to calm down before mashing out these posts.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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The trend for gold isn't looking good.

http://www.kitco.com/charts/popup/au0365nyb.html
Take risks - if you win you will become wealthy, if you lose you will become wise
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Shadow
2 Dec 2015, 08:10 AM
You should really try to calm down before mashing out these posts.

I was not emotional while posting, despite your false claims otherwise..

I am using the beartrap spell checker. :D .. you remember his posts, don't you ?

How many times did you correct his spelling ? zero sound about right ?

thks.


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Your response to how many times you corrected beartrap's spelling ...

Posted Image


:D



Rufus
2 Dec 2015, 08:14 AM
The trend for gold isn't looking good.

http://www.kitco.com/charts/popup/au0365nyb.html

it does look sick... slightly less so if you look @ it in AUD, but sick none the less.

If you had 1.2M to invest, what does one buy ?

Gold ? Silver ? Palladium (I hear Gates is keen on that) ?

Property ? Shares ?

Few attract me right now based on either being very sick looking chart, or having already had a good run... still somewhat bullish on property, but not everywhere in Australia...
Edited by Rastus2, 2 Dec 2015, 08:43 AM.
Shadow - Defrauded his Bank ? 2015 I have 9 different loans and my bank had no idea which ones were personal and which were investment. They had half of them classed incorrectly. When this change came in they asked me to tell them if any personal loans were incorrectly classed as investment, which I did, and they switched them to personal for the lower rate. They also had a couple of investment loans incorrectly classed as personal. They didn't ask me about those. So they stay on the lower rate too. Worked out pretty well. :)
Shadow - 2008 Sydney Median House Price 1.25M by 2014-2015

Shadow : I think this boom has already begun in several cities. My prediction :
Peak of boom: 2014-2015. Sydney Median Price: $1,250,000 Bottom of bust: 2017-2018. Sydney Median Price: $1,100,000

Shadow's Original 2010 House Boom and Crash prediction http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/shady-orig-2010-chart.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Shadow's attempt to edit his 2010 chart in 2015 and replace it with one that does not show a crash in 2013 http://s836.photobucket.com/user/rastus22/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-06-06%20at%207.12.52%20pm_1.png.html
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