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Iron ore - supply and demand rides again
Topic Started: 30 May 2014, 03:23 PM (44,284 Views)
John Frum
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newjez
1 Jul 2014, 01:22 PM
No, I fear timmy's wife may be I'll, and his absence doesn't bode well. The price hasn't dropped far enough to scare him off. It may still bounce from here, or not. But there is enough to argue the case either way.
Well he did like to provoke the bears pretty hard, so he has a lot of enemies here who'd be busting to stick the knife in now IO's hovering around $90. IIRC his call was around $110 for this year.

Shame to see him go really, he did almost seem knowledgeable and intelligent when he wasn't so busy winding everyone up. Agree it's very odd to have just disappeared off the radar. Maybe he's been retrenched, and is waiting for the confidence boost that landing a 300k+ job provides before returning here to inflict more pain.
Edited by John Frum, 2 Jul 2014, 06:34 AM.
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John Frum
2 Jul 2014, 06:34 AM
Well he did like to provoke the bears pretty hard, so he has a lot of enemies here who'd be busting to stick the knife in now IO's hovering around $90. IIRC his call was around $110 for this year.

Shame to see him go really, he did almost seem knowledgeable and intelligent when he wasn't so busy winding everyone up. Agree it's very odd to have just disappeared off the radar. Maybe he's been retrenched, and is waiting for the confidence boost that landing a 300k+ job provides before returning here to inflict more pain.
He stuck around last time when it dropped lower. No, I think something is up. Redundancy wouldn't have bothered him that much.
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newjez
2 Jul 2014, 08:41 AM
He stuck around last time when it dropped lower. No, I think something is up. Redundancy wouldn't have bothered him that much.
Maybe Jimmy Timmy has been sent to South Africa again on short notice? :ni:
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Zero is coming...

Shot to the cock with a follow through to the balls,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-02/trade-balance-slumps-to-near-2-billion-deficit-on-fall-in-iron-/5566376

Who said it was nothing to do with supply and demand??

Gas, coal and iron ore down, thats a trisector decline?

Mr. Pigiron, what your thoughts?

Just think of all those shitheads in Canberra bleating over their wages??

But but but Western Australia just has to send us all it's money to keep the socialist utopia going, we will be good with the money, promise.

Theres no money coming mate, it's over.




Peter
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Mustapha Mond
3 Jul 2014, 02:20 AM
Shot to the cock with a follow through to the balls,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-02/trade-balance-slumps-to-near-2-billion-deficit-on-fall-in-iron-/5566376

Who said it was nothing to do with supply and demand??

Gas, coal and iron ore down, thats a trisector decline?

Mr. Pigiron, what your thoughts?

Just think of all those shitheads in Canberra bleating over their wages??

But but but Western Australia just has to send us all it's money to keep the socialist utopia going, we will be good with the money, promise.

Theres no money coming mate, it's over.




Peter
I thought the lib/Nat's were in. Are they socialist?
Whenever you have an argument with someone, there comes a moment where you must ask yourself, whatever your political persuasion, 'am I the Nazi?'
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Foxy
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Zero is coming...

newjez
3 Jul 2014, 08:27 AM
I thought the lib/Nat's were in. Are they socialist?
Canberrans voted for the Liberals??



http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Parliamentarian_Search_Results?q=&sta=ACT&mem=1&par=-1&gen=0&ps=10


Man you got some kangaroos loose in the top paddock.

Peter
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Mustapha Mond
3 Jul 2014, 06:17 PM
Canberrans voted for the Liberals??



http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Parliamentarian_Search_Results?q=&sta=ACT&mem=1&par=-1&gen=0&ps=10


Man you got some kangaroos loose in the top paddock.

Peter
To be fair, the libs are going to keep spending the money, just on a different set of crap and corruption.
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Foxy
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Zero is coming...

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/7/2/australian-news/jobs-picture-starting-look-ugly


But how did Foxbat know.

A whole world of pain is coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedqV4Gl_us

Peter
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Lou Ellen
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The Port Hedland Port Authority has released its June shipping figures and the numbers are a little bit of surprise to me. Total shipments fell 7% to 33.6 million tonnes (mt).

In aggregate terms, China accounted for much of the fall but its share still rebounded strongly because other nation’s demand fell faster.

There is no obvious reason for this. The main users of the port are BHP, FMG and AGO and nameplate production is higher than this. Indeed, shipments were higher in March, before peak output was reached. AGO has been laying off staff but has said nothing about winding down output. It only ships a little over 10mt per annum anyway.

The likely conclusion is that either one or all of the miner’s are rationing stock to protect the price. That may seem sensible but also risks missing volume targets. Quarterly production and sales reports just got more interesting.
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You can only export what people are willing to buy. It’s not good enough to load a ship with out someone ready and able to deposit money in your account afterwards. (Not all iron ore is contracted into infinity)

To say they are playing games to keep prices up by marginally cutting supply in an already gluttonous IO market is unlikely but surely possible. Realistically many miners are better off pumping supply for a few dollars less then such games.

Iron ore production rates can not continue like they where when steel mills are full of final product, and the storage warehouse are filling with IO.

Good luck FMG we hardly knew ye.
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