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Global Warming: Glaciers, ice caps and ice sheets are collapsing, and it's unstoppable; How the planet's ice cover is being altered by climate change
Topic Started: 27 May 2014, 01:51 PM (22,665 Views)
Foxy
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Investor888
28 Jun 2014, 05:58 PM
Lucky? You sound like a bear. You just got to where you are cause you got "lucky". I rad the market when Istarted investing in Sydney at the bottom of the last cycle in 2006), after the peak of 2003, and flat period of 2004-2006. While the bears here were calling a property bubble, I got "lucky" in another 40-50% up property cycle to the end of 2013, in a boom property cycle that was always going to happens.
I got "lucky" with a few quick buy/sells around the country as well. Gladstone was the best I've done on any one property. Got a house for $320K in 2010, and then sold 2 yrs later for $570K.
No luck there really. Just research, and being ahead of the curve of investors, and the mass of dumb prebs who wait and buy at the top of market. Like the fools who are still buying in Sydney now at the peak, and with 15-20% falls coming though to 2018 once interest rates start rising.

See ya fool. And chill on you alarmist global warming. We are heading into a cooling period the 2020's and 2030's with weakening solar activity.

Excellent catch Strindberg.
Completely proves that Kulganis does NOT know how to read the graphs, and what anomalies mean. This twits appears to think that the anomaly is cumulative, and shows the temperature rise from the previous year. IT IS NOT Kulganis, you complete twit. The anomaly means the different between the current temperature, and the average it's measured against. Usually the graphs take this (depending the graph) as the average between period (1980-2008).

COMLETE MORONS on this forum. :re: holy crap, I've never come across such halfwits before. Kulganis, you've just proved you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. QED..

Kulganis , the graph even says "DEPARTURE FROM 81 - 10 average (1981-2010 average).
The attached is the land anomaly only - +0.33deg C in May 2014.

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The attached is the land and ocean anomaly combined - +0.76deg C in May 2014.
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Again why are we dealing with such a small data set??

35 years??

Peter
Scam alert, give me all your money fools and i will make to global greenhouse gassed up monster go away.
Peter
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peter fraser
28 Jun 2014, 06:18 PM
I agree, the sun is our only external source of meaningful energy and it will not be an exact constant, but that neither supports or negates shadows point. How old is our solar system again?

And he is pointing to a seventeen year time frame.

It proves nothing either way does it.



I agree.

I really really wanted to be homophobic, anti-semitic, and believe in hair brained conspiracy theories and flying saucers, but it just wasn't in me.
How dare you !!!





You arrogant little Man.
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97% of climate scientists agree human activity is driving climatic change but 97% of Australian sofa spuds deny this because if accepted by government and acted on in earnest would mean serious changes to the amount of electricity they use, petrol they burn, and trees they cut down to build new housing estates.

Of the 30% of the earth's surface that was covered by rainforest in 1950, only 7% remains and clearing is still ongoing. Humans it seems are self destructive in any collective social system they create. It explains why every empire that ever rose to power eventually collapsed into anarchy. Generally when they had exploited their local biosphere and ran out of food.

Pathetic. And the basic reason why I reject modern society and 97% of the people in it. You are all just lemmings rushing to your destruction.
Thankfully there is a solution. And it can't come quick enough in my opinion.

Martin Armstrong Warns Civil Unrest Is Rising Everywhere: "This Won't End Pretty"

The greatest problem we have is misinformation. People simply do not comprehend why and how the economic policies of the post-war era are imploding. This whole agenda of socialism has sold a Utopian idea that the State is there for the people yet it is run by lawyers following their own self-interest. Even confiscating all the wealth of the so-called rich will not sustain the system. Consequently, we just have to crash and burn and start all over again
Edited by goldbug, 29 Jun 2014, 08:27 AM.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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SteveC
28 Jun 2014, 06:33 PM
Shadow!
Hypocrite!!
Schoolboy error!!!
Arrogant prick!!!!
When in doubt, hurl some abuse...


goldbug
29 Jun 2014, 08:16 AM
97% of climate scientists agree human activity is driving climatic change
Incorrect. I see you've fallen for the 97% consensus lie too.

The truth is that a group of alarmists from Skeptical Science reviewed a cherry-picked subset of papers, and then claimed that 97% of those abstracts said climate change was mostly man made. Many of the authors of those papers disputed the alarmists' interpretation of their work.

The truth is only half of experts think climate change is man made...

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/20/the-97-consensus-myth-busted-by-a-real-survey/

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Strindberg
28 Jun 2014, 05:50 PM
The chart you are referring to does not show warming over the last 15 or so years. It shows that global temperatures have been around the same temperature anomaly (~0.5 degrees) for that period. No warming - zilch.

Your statement indicates the you have been under the moronic delusion that temperature anomalies on such charts indicate annual temperature rises. They do not. They indicate the absolute change for the respective year with respect to a fixed reference temperature. No change in the temperature anomaly from year to year indicates no change in absolute global temperature. You really must be cringing at your own revelation of your own ignorance.

You have made a enormous cock-up. You have lost your last tiny shred of credibility. You and we now know that you have spent the whole time on this subject talking dribble through your arse.
It's ironic how Kulganis revealed his misunderstanding of the charts while accusing me of not reading them correctly.

It was a huge error to make. It means he has just spent days arguing about data he didn't actually understand.

No wonder he abandoned the thread with these final words...

'You know what? You win, I give up, this is pointless. Have fun. (note, I don't agree with you, I just can't be arsed arguing about it)'

Followed by posting a Youtube clip called 'The Age of Stupid' which I assume was a reference to his own error.
Edited by Shadow, 29 Jun 2014, 10:18 AM.
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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You're just a lemming shadow. A lemming with a mountain of debt in a world piled high with unpayable debt. When it all collaspes you will be stuck in the middle of Australia's largest city with nothing but your furniture your car and the clothes in your wardrobe. They will eat you alive lol.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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goldbug
29 Jun 2014, 10:31 AM
You're just a lemming shadow. A lemming with a mountain of debt in a world piled high with unpayable debt. When it all collaspes you will be stuck in the middle of Australia's largest city with nothing but your furniture your car and the clothes in your wardrobe. They will eat you alive lol.
What has any of this got to do with the topic? Are you just venting?
1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Foxy
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Zero is coming...

This global warming is a great scam,

Tell the ignorant gullible fools to give them their money and you will stop global warming.

Then the Sun output of energy wanes as it was always going to do.

Then you can complete the magic trick by saying to the fools "look we stopped global warming"

People are so ignorant and gullible.

But if they do wake up from this one they will simply hurl themselves at the next scam.

That is why you have rich and poor.

Suffer the little children.

Peter
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Public opinion often turns against a new tech­no­logy or devel­op­ment even if the sci­ence behind it is sound. Researchers who study public atti­tudes to sci­ence used to think that providing more facts and fig­ures – increasing know­ledge – was the way to improve public engage­ment with sci­ence. This approach is known as the ‘deficit model’ of sci­ence com­mu­nic­a­tion – it was assumed that oppos­i­tion to a par­tic­ular sci­entific devel­op­ment was based on a deficit of know­ledge (Irwin & Wynne, 1996).

However, it soon became clear that many of the argu­ments about ‘sci­entific’ con­tro­ver­sies (e.g. dis­putes over GM crops) were not really about ‘sci­ence’ at all, and cli­mate change is no exception.


Dan Kahan and his col­leagues at Yale University have shown that people’s pos­i­tions about sci­entific topics tend to be driven by their polit­ical ideo­lo­gies and world­views (Kahan et al, 2010). So it is no sur­prise that appar­ently neutral, uncon­tro­ver­sial sci­entific reports (like those pub­lished by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) have acted as a light­ning rod for dis­agree­ment. For an indi­vidual who sup­ports co-ordinated inter­na­tional action to tackle cli­mate change, what could be more com­pel­ling than a con­sensus state­ment from an inter­na­tional body of inde­pendent sci­ent­ists? For someone inclined to per­ceive inter­na­tional reg­u­la­tions as a threat to trade and industry, an inter­na­tional report that speaks of con­sensus is likely to set alarm bells ringing. The facts are the same in both cases: the inter­pret­a­tion very different.

nderstanding that cli­mate change scep­ti­cism will not be over­come by a more forceful present­a­tion of the sci­ence is a crit­ical first step. A lot of valu­able com­mu­nic­a­tion time will con­tinue to be wasted on explaining the sci­ence of cli­mate change over and over again to a group of people who have already heard everything they need to hear. Of course people need to know about the sci­ence of cli­mate change – but once they know about it and choose to reject it, explaining it to them louder is unlikely to do much good.
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Foxy
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What a beautiful scam.

Cui bono
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This cracks me up, you guys have posted 20 pages in 2 days.

I think Catweasels post sums it up pretty nicely.
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