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The hottest May in recorded history was last month

Last month was the hottest May on record, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Monday. The previous record for May was set in 2010.

In its monthly climate report, the NOAA said that the combined average ocean surface and land temperatures were 1.33 degrees Fahrenheit above the 20th century average of 58.6 degrees, The Huffington Post says. Certain regions were hit with warmer than average temperatures, including parts of Kazakhstan, Indonesia, and Australia.

Scientists think that the higher temperatures point towards an impending El Niño, which could bring heavy rainfalls to some areas and crippling droughts to others. The Climate Prediction Center says that there is a 70 percent chance an El Niño will strike this summer, and an 80 percent chance it will hit by fall.
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Meanwhile a Mega blizzard is hitting South East Australia in what looks to be the largest for 10 years.

Who knows whether global warming is man made or not, im not going to debate that.

My view is looking at sun activity, past weather events spanning the last 50,000 years. We are overdue for an iceage and the present sun activity indicates we could be headed for one. This is why global cooling has been happening for over the past 10 years and we are seeing more severe winter events.

We may look back in 100 years wishing we pumped out far more CO2 to reduce the Iceage on its way. That would be ironic if it came to pass.

Do you recall how much CO2 the volcanic eruption in Iceland put out a few years ago, google that. That is real global warming events, one super volcano and you can kiss good buy to all the environmental green "carbon taxes" you like, it wont make any difference.

Anyone going to Yellowstone National Park, I hear the caldera is rising and the last time it erupted it whipped out much of the West and Central US, hence the rich plains lands which provide such huge food harvests. Be a bad day to be an American.
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peter fraser
24 Jun 2014, 07:48 PM
Last month was the hottest May on record, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Monday. The previous record for May was set in 2010.

In its monthly climate report, the NOAA said that the combined average ocean surface and land temperatures were 1.33 degrees Fahrenheit above the 20th century average of 58.6 degrees,

I love it how the man-made global warming alarmist jump on one figure, without understanding how that figure trends/moves.

Quite selective alarmism by the man-made global warming alarmist. May 2014 WOW! at +0.76deg C anomaly.

Never mind the fact that month to month the temperature anomaly goes up and down, but overall, over the past 17.5yrs, the trend continues to be flat, with no temperature rise.

Perhaps we look at February 2014 at +0.45deg C, which was a dip, and the 5th coldest global month in the last 13ys. Or 2010, 2007, which had some warmer months even that the "Record May 2014". Hell, even one month in 1990 was warmer than the May 2014 figures (24yrs ago).
Come back next month (June or July), and the temperature anomaly will have dropped again.

Compare May 2014 (+0.76deg C), with February 2014 (+0.45deg C) with January 2014 (+0.70deg C)
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Whatever happened to acid rain?

I can remember as a kid acid rain was going to kill everyone and everything - did that ever materialize?
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peter fraser
24 Jun 2014, 07:48 PM
The hottest May in recorded history was last month

Last month was the hottest May on record, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Monday. The previous record for May was set in 2010.

In its monthly climate report, the NOAA said that the combined average ocean surface and land temperatures were 1.33 degrees Fahrenheit above the 20th century average of 58.6 degrees, The Huffington Post says. Certain regions were hit with warmer than average temperatures, including parts of Kazakhstan, Indonesia, and Australia.
So there is the first degree of warming, baked in the cake as they say. If the feedback loops often cited begin things will speed up from here, we could be at 2 degrees within a decade and that would guarantee an appreciable sea level rise and an increase in the devistating storms that have been ravaging the earth of late. Too late to stop it now even if we acted. I have read reports that show shutting down all china's coal fired stations and the subsequent loss of particulates in the upper atmosphere would only exaserbate the speed up of temperature rise.
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SittingOnDeFence
24 Jun 2014, 10:21 PM
Whatever happened to acid rain?

I can remember as a kid acid rain was going to kill everyone and everything - did that ever materialize?
Yeap, I'm old enough as well to remember the 1980's scares how Acid Rain was going to kill all the forests in the world.

Acid Rain has now been replaced by the Acid Ocean scare. Never mind though that the Ocean is at PH 8.1 currently, a drop in 20yrs from a PH 8.2. Still well into the Basic range of the PH scale. Pure Water is PH 7. Normal Rain is PH 5-6.

The PH scale is logarithmic like the Richter Scale, so Normal Rain at PH 5.5, is 500-600 TIMES more acidic than the Ocean at PH 8.1.
Acid Rain at PH 3 is 10000 times more Acidic than Ocean Water.

So you know what I think of the ocean acidification scare. More alarmist rubbish.
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szokolay
24 Jun 2014, 10:26 PM
So there is the first degree of warming, baked in the cake as they say. If the feedback loops often cited begin things will speed up from here, we could be at 2 degrees within a decade and that would guarantee an appreciable sea level rise and an increase in the devistating storms that have been ravaging the earth of late.
Good attention to detail you twit. But expected from the man-made global warming loonies
1.33deg Fahrenheit, not 1.33 deg C. Big difference.

1.33deg Fahrenheit * 5/9 = 0.74deg Celsius.
Refer to my graphs above. And February 2014 was +0.44deg Celsius anomaly (0.79deg Fahrenheit)
January 2014 was +0.7deg Celsius anomaly

The anomaly moved up and down each month, but overall the 17yr trend is flat (NO global warming at all).
szokolay
24 Jun 2014, 10:26 PM
So there is the first degree of warming, baked in the cake as they say. If the feedback loops often cited begin things will speed up from here, we could be at 2 degrees within a decade and that would guarantee an appreciable sea level rise and an increase in the devistating storms that have been ravaging the earth of late. Too late to stop it now even if we acted. I have read reports that show shutting down all china's coal fired stations and the subsequent loss of particulates in the upper atmosphere would only exaserbate the speed up of temperature rise.
Good attention to detail you twit. But expected from the man-made global warming loonies
1.33deg Fahrenheit, not 1.33 deg C. Big difference.

1.33deg Fahrenheit * 5/9 = 0.74deg Celsius.
Refer to my graphs above. And February 2014 was +0.44deg Celsius anomaly (0.79deg Fahrenheit)
January 2014 was +0.7deg Celsius anomaly

The anomaly moved up and down each month, but overall the 17yr trend is flat (NO global warming at all).
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Investor888
24 Jun 2014, 10:31 PM
1.33deg Fahrenheit * 5/9 = 0.74deg Celsius.
Refer to my graphs above. And February 2014 was +0.44deg Celsius anomaly (0.79deg Fahrenheit)
January 2014 was +0.7deg Celsius anomaly

The anomaly moved up and down each month, but overall the 17yr trend is flat (NO global warming at all).
17 years - what would that tell you?

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peter fraser
24 Jun 2014, 11:53 PM
17 years - what would that tell you?

Zip.
It tells me plenty. Above all that ALL the IPCC and other climate models are now completely inaccurate, and incapable of matching real and observe temperature measurements.
The May 2014 +0.76deg C anomaly is for both Land and Sea. About +0.4 land, +0.3 sea. February Land and Sea anomaly was +0.45deg C.

The models, are already out by 0.4deg C on surface(land) temperature predictions. +0.4 vs predicted +0.8,which for such a short period, is a massive miscalculations. And you trust them to predict out 100yrs. :re:

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Investor888
25 Jun 2014, 12:10 AM
It tells me plenty.
No it doesn't, it just feeds your bias.
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peter fraser
25 Jun 2014, 12:15 AM
No it doesn't, it just feeds your bias.
Keep freaking out about man-made global warming Peter.

But the fact remains that with no warming over 17.5yrs, the real/observed measurements have dropped out the bottom of EVERY climate models, and EVERY climate models is as good as useless as matching what is actually happening.

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