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Global Warming: Glaciers, ice caps and ice sheets are collapsing, and it's unstoppable; How the planet's ice cover is being altered by climate change
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Global Warming specifically refers to the Greenhouse effect which is a long established scientific fact. Climate change is a different factor.

The facts are that Co2 is the major factor in Global warming, and human industrial activity is adding Co2 to the hydrosphere. The increase has been 50% since the industrial era began. But most of it in the last half century. Co2 is now increasing at 1% pa.

There will be consequences. The problem is the average conservative nutjob thinks actions don't have consequences.
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derp
16 Jun 2014, 11:43 AM
I wonder what the zimbabwe academy of science is like. Roberto you should send your kids there to get a good solid education. I'm sure they are producing fantastic research.

Roberto did you fail to see that all the models have been openly admitted to be false?
openly admitted to be false by who? I see no credible sources on this thread. And your reference to the zimbabwe academy of science is really quite childish as well. Do you expect us to believe that because they are a poor black nation they cannot conduct science? Or are you suggesting ALL black people are useless at science? Racist attacks like yours do not go unnoticed on this forum.
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szokolay
16 Jun 2014, 08:33 PM
openly admitted to be false by who? I see no credible sources on this thread. And your reference to the zimbabwe academy of science is really quite childish as well. Do you expect us to believe that because they are a poor black nation they cannot conduct science? Or are you suggesting ALL black people are useless at science? Racist attacks like yours do not go unnoticed on this forum.
Send your kids there to get a good education. Put your money where your mouth is.

Has nothing to do with racism. Where does Zimbabwe's university come in on the global rankings?

Credible sources? As in the ABC?
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Another Man-Made Global Warming overreaction regarding West Antarctic ice melt bites the dust. So much for warming due to CO2.
Maybe, just maybe it's the active volcanoes under the West Antarctic ice. Peter. Which one is more plausable 1)Hot Lava + Ice = Melt Water or 2) Man-Made CO2 + Ice = Melt Water :re: Damn idiots, you don't realise how much you Man-Made Warmists have been fooled. "Settled science" my arse. Again, the existing climate computer models on which the "settled science" is based seem greatly flawed.

Hidden volcanoes melt Antarctic glaciers from below, study finds
Uh oh: Study says ‘collapsing’ Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica melting from geothermal heat, not ‘climate change’ effects

And even the ABC News :o , I'm shocked these pro man-made global warmists would report this ABC - Antarctic volcanoes add to sea level rise

And the report itself for these in the man-made global warming religion Evidence for elevated and spatially variable geothermal flux beneath the West Antarctic Ice Sheet

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Now, a new study finds that these subglacial volcanoes and other geothermal "hotspots" are contributing to the melting of Thwaites Glacier, a major river of ice that flows into Antarctica's Pine Island Bay. Areas of the glacier that sit near geologic features thought to be volcanic are melting faster than regions farther away from hotspots, said Dustin Schroeder, the study's lead author and a geophysicist at the University of Texas at Austin.
This melting could significantly affect ice loss in the West Antarctic, an area that is losing ice quickly.


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Scientists use computer models to try to predict the future of the ice sheet, but their lack of understanding of subglacial geothermal energy has been a glaring gap in these models.


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Using radar data from satellites in orbit, the researchers were able to figure out where these subglacial streams were too full to be explained by flow from upstream. The swollen streams revealed spots of unusually high melt, Schroeder said. Next, the researchers checked out the subglacial geology in the region and found that fast-melting spots were disproportionately clustered near confirmed West Antarctic volcanoes, suspected volcanoes or other presumed hotspots.

"There's a pattern of hotspots," Schroeder said. "One of them is next to Mount Takahe, which is a volcano that actually sticks out of the ice sheet."


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The extra melt caused by subglacial volcanoes could lubricate the ice sheet from beneath, hastening its flow toward the sea, Schroeder said. To understand how much the volcanic melt contributes to this flow and what that means for the future of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet glaciologists and climate scientists will have to include the new, finer-grained findings in their models.
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derp
16 Jun 2014, 10:28 PM
Send your kids there to get a good education. Put your money where your mouth is.

Has nothing to do with racism. Where does Zimbabwe's university come in on the global rankings?

Credible sources? As in the ABC?
But you didn't answer his question did you.


Investor888
17 Jun 2014, 12:13 AM
Another Man-Made Global Warming overreaction regarding West Antarctic ice melt bites the dust. So much for warming due to CO2.
Maybe, just maybe it's the active volcanoes under the West Antarctic ice. Peter. Which one is more plausable 1)Hot Lava + Ice = Melt Water or 2) Man-Made CO2 + Ice = Melt Water :re: Damn idiots, you don't realise how much you Man-Made Warmists have been fooled. "Settled science" my arse. Again, the existing climate computer models on which the "settled science" is based seem greatly flawed.

Hidden volcanoes melt Antarctic glaciers from below, study finds
Uh oh: Study says ‘collapsing’ Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica melting from geothermal heat, not ‘climate change’ effects

And even the ABC News :o , I'm shocked these pro man-made global warmists would report this ABC - Antarctic volcanoes add to sea level rise

And the report itself for these in the man-made global warming religion Evidence for elevated and spatially variable geothermal flux beneath the West Antarctic Ice Sheet

This is a difficult issue to grasp and I confess that I struggle to comprehend itl.

It's time that you also appreciated that you have no idea of the issues. The ability to Google dernier websites does not signal appreciation of the nuances and causes for the changing climate.
Edited by peter fraser, 17 Jun 2014, 05:37 AM.
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derp
16 Jun 2014, 10:28 PM
szokolay
16 Jun 2014, 08:33 PM
openly admitted to be false by who? I see no credible sources on this thread. And your reference to the zimbabwe academy of science is really quite childish as well. Do you expect us to believe that because they are a poor black nation they cannot conduct science? Or are you suggesting ALL black people are useless at science? Racist attacks like yours do not go unnoticed on this forum.
Send your kids there to get a good education. Put your money where your mouth is.

Has nothing to do with racism. Where does Zimbabwe's university come in on the global rankings?

Credible sources? As in the ABC?
He posted a list of a hundred scientific organizations that are aligned with the truth about AGW but you had nothing to counter it so you played the race card and went to the end of the list and picked the poorest black nation and then discredited it. If that is not a racial slur I don't know what is.

You have no science to offer here, nothing but your hate of the black peoples. Piss off loser.
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derp
16 Jun 2014, 11:43 AM
I wonder what the zimbabwe academy of science is like. Roberto you should send your kids there to get a good solid education. I'm sure they are producing fantastic research.
This is just a racist attack alright. People like you should be the ones going to Zimbabwe.

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So we don't go totally off topic and turn this into a fake racism discussion I will say this once.

My comment applies to the host of third world organizations on that list, including Moldova and Venezuela which are 'white' countries. I picked Zimbabwe to emphasise the point because it is notorious for poor government management. Now if you want to straw man this and make it about race then it will be consistent with your tendency to straw man everything else in this discussion. I'm actually completely opposite to racist. I'm hoping a lot more people take up citizenship in Australia and totally marginalize the whole labor/greens voter base. Imagine an immigrant from a poor third world country voting for a carbon tax that makes their life harder whilst enriching corrupt 1st world politicians? Not going to happen.

I hope to see a whole host of black people move here and make a go of it instead of sucking off julia gillards teats like the local socialistas do.

Now let's get back to reading about your undying devotion the catastrophic manmade global warming cult.
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17 Jun 2014, 07:19 AM
I picked Zimbabwe to emphasise the point because it is notorious for poor government management.
The Zimbabwean Academy of Sciences isn't a government organisation, they source most of their funding from international sources, namely the network of African Science Academies.
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derp
17 Jun 2014, 07:19 AM
So we don't go totally off topic and turn this into a fake racism discussion I will say this once.

My comment applies to the host of third world organizations on that list, including Moldova and Venezuela which are 'white' countries. I picked Zimbabwe to emphasise the point because it is notorious for poor government management. Now if you want to straw man this and make it about race then it will be consistent with your tendency to straw man everything else in this discussion. I'm actually completely opposite to racist. I'm hoping a lot more people take up citizenship in Australia and totally marginalize the whole labor/greens voter base. Imagine an immigrant from a poor third world country voting for a carbon tax that makes their life harder whilst enriching corrupt 1st world politicians? Not going to happen.

I hope to see a whole host of black people move here and make a go of it instead of sucking off julia gillards teats like the local socialistas do.

Now let's get back to reading about your undying devotion the catastrophic manmade global warming cult.
You made a typically stupid uninformed cheap shot, but I don't think it was racially motivated.

Let's move on.
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