That's right. Keep debating it. Keep denying it. I was walking around in shorts last night, out in the Queensland countryside where it's usually frosty this time of year. It was 20º at midnight. But don't take my word for it.
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Australian Associated Press Monday 2 June 2014 Australia has experienced its hottest two years on record and high temperatures are set to continue through winter in a clear sign of climate change, a report warns.
May 2012 to April 2014 was the hottest 24-month period ever recorded in Australia, but that is likely to be eclipsed by the two years between June 2012 and May 2014, according to the Climate Commission's latest report, Abnormal Autumn. "We have just had an abnormally warm autumn, off the back of another very hot 'angry summer'," Professor Will Steffen of the Climate Council said." The past two-year period has delivered the hottest average temperature we have ever recorded in Australia." Climate change is here, it's happening, and Australians are already feeling its impact."The average temperature across Australia in April was 1.11C above the long-term average.
That's right. Keep debating it. Keep denying it. I was walking around in shorts last night, out in the Queensland countryside where it's usually frosty this time of year. It was 20º at midnight. But don't take my word for it.
Ah so now you are claiming that the world is heating up - is that your new position?
Whoops sorry goldbug I replied thinking that was investor888
Ah so if there is no global warming there will be no rising sea levels, is that correct. After all why would the sea levels rise if ice isn't melting.
What is your view on that?
Here is the raw sea-level rise. 6cm in 20year. or 30cm by 2100 Also note that some of the rise is natural. As sediment, dirt and dust blows from the land it settled on the ocean bed (as it has for millions of years). So 1mm or new sediment level rises oceans by 1mm, etc. The current rate of sea-level rises is approximately less than 3mm.yr.
Far from the 6m++ rise of the Al Gore movie and 70m+ rise from some of the alarmist on here.
That's right. Keep debating it. Keep denying it. I was walking around in shorts last night, out in the Queensland countryside where it's usually frosty this time of year. It was 20º at midnight. But don't take my word for it.
Typical Aussie bogans!!. Looking at Australia as you sign of man-made global warming. Most of the land mass is in the Northern Hemisphere, and the Northern Hemisphere has actually cooled 0.2deg since 2002. Overall global temperatures have been on pause and not rising more 17.5yrs.
Here is the raw sea-level rise. 6cm in 20year. or 30cm by 2100 Also note that some of the rise is natural. As sediment, dirt and dust blows from the land it settled on the ocean bed (as it has for millions of years). So 1mm or new sediment level rises oceans by 1mm, etc. The current rate of sea-level rises is approximately less than 3mm.yr.
Far from the 6m++ rise of the Al Gore movie and 70m+ rise from some of the alarmist on here.
Wow - only 6 cm - that's not much is it. Just for interest sake where is that measurement taken. You do understand the effects of centripetal acceleration on sea levels don't you. Maybe that 6cm is at the poles and not at the equator where it would be much higher.
Are you sure that it's only 6 cm - that seems too low to me.
Could you be wrong on that as you have been on most of your other property related posts?
Being wrong has been a trademark of your posts,
just asking..
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Wow - only 6 cm - that's not much is it. Just for interest sake where is that measurement taken. You do understand the effects of centripetal acceleration on sea levels don't you. Maybe that 6cm is at the poles and not at the equator where it would be much higher.
Are you sure that it's only 6 cm - that seems too low to me.
Your so full of shit Peter. No clue what your talking about, and making shit up as you go. Centripetal acceleration now. If you check NASA, you'll find the Earth's spin slightly slowing, so that means centripetal acceleration would actually be decreasing slightly. "The solar day is gradually getting longer because Earth's rotation is slowing down ever so slightly," says Daniel MacMillan of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md."
Thought you man-made warming alarmists had all the answers and the science was settled
""Are you sure that it's only 6 cm - that seems too low to me.""
Yes it is only 6cm in 20. And the rate of rise (as stated by the IPCC even is 3.1mm/yr, or 31cm over 100yrs). That rate of increase according to NOAA has dropped from 4mm/yr 20yrs ago to 1.6mm+-0.8mm/yr now (~2mm/yr). So the RATE of sea-level rise is actually SLOWING, not increasing. NOAA - The Budget of Recent Global Sea Level Rise
That's the official measurements from the people who measure and provide the data. Not the BS biased analysis then of your GreenLeft weekly hippie buddies.
Anyway, I've had enough of you crazy man-made global warming fools. EVERY prediction that IPCC has made has turned out to be inaccurate, and you fools, like followers to a religious cult leader, still believe them. You keep listening to the man-made CO2 global warming alarm. I'll keep looking at the underlying raw data. The measured and observed values on temperature and sea-level, are proving ALL the doomsday computer models inaccurate. The game is over for man-made global warming.
Your so full of shit Peter. No clue what your talking about. Thought you man-made warming alarmists had all the answers and the science was settled
""Are you sure that it's only 6 cm - that seems too low to me.""
Yes it is only 6cm in 20. And the rate of rise (as stated by the IPCC even is 3.1mm/yr, or 31cm over 100yrs). That rate of increase according to NOAA has dropped from 4mm/yr 20yrs ago to 1.6mm+-0.8mm/yr now (~2mm/yr). So the RATE of sea-level rise is actually SLOWING, not increasing. NOAA - The Budget of Recent Global Sea Level Rise
That's the official measurements from the people who measure and provide the data. Not the BS biased analysis then of your GreenLeft weekly hippie buddies.
Anyway, I've had enough of you crazy man-made global warming fools. EVERY prediction that IPCC has made has turned out to be inaccurate, and you fools, like followers to a religious cult leaders, still believe them.
Well I think that all predictions of this nature are destined to be less than 100% accurate, but I'm interested in the general trend rather than exactitude.
So if it's only 6cm why are the Marshall Islands having so many issues with rising sea levels. Let me give you some headlines.
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World War II Skeletons Washed From Graves by Rising Seas
Skeletons of World War II soldiers are being washed from their graves by the rising Pacific Ocean as global warming leads to inundation of islands that saw some of the fiercest fighting of the conflict.
On the day Europe commemorated the 70th anniversary of the storming of Normandy beaches in the D-Day landings, a minister from the Marshall Islands, a remote archipelago between Hawaii and the Philippines, told how the remains of 26, probably Japanese soldiers, had been recovered so far on the isle of Santo.
“There are coffins and dead people being washed away from graves; it’s that serious,” Tony de Brum, minister of foreign affairs for the Marshall Islands, said yesterday. Tides “have caused not just inundation and flooding of communities where people live but have also done severe damage in undermining regular land so that even the dead are affected.”
Spring tides from the end of February to April had flooded communities, he told a group of reporters at the latest round of United Nations climate talks in Bonn.
The minister’s comments bring home the stark future for low-lying island nations as the planet warms, causing sea levels to rise. The Marshall Islands, a string of more than 1,000 such isles with a population of about 70,000, is about 2 meters (7 feet) at its highest point, according to de Brum.
The tropical western Pacific is a region the UN said this week is experiencing almost four times the global average rate of sea level increase, with waters creeping up by 12 millimeters (half an inch) a year between 1993 and 2009. The global average pace is 3.2 millimeters a year.
I'm not wasting any more time on you, you fool. By the way, the islands are sinking (that is the land is sinking), not sea levels rising. Actual sea-levels around Marshall Islands has changed very little. Stop listening to the alarmist BS, and use your head.
Read up on 1) Solar Cycles - and weakening solar activity (solar cycles 25 - from 2019) 2) Solar minimums Dalton minimum 1790-1830 and Maunder Minimum 1650-1700's, and the effect on cooling Earth. 3) Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) and Atlantic Multi-Decadal Oscillation (AMO), both 30-40yr cycles from negative to positive phases. Both heading into negative phase which lead to cooling periods.
See you fool. I'm off this forum and the complete stupidity on it, from this topic to property. You fools are mostly negative clueless twits on here. I'll be retired at 45 with multiple properties, while you fools go on about the upcoming property crash
I'm not wasting any more time on you, you fool. By the way, the islands are sinking (that is the land is sinking), not sea levels rising.
Read up on 1) Solar Cycles - and weakening solar activity (solar cycles 25 - from 2019) 2) Solar minimums Dalton minimum 1790-1830 and Maunder Minimum 1650-1700's, and the effect on cooling Earth. 3) Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) and Atlantic Multi-Decadal Oscillation (AMO), both 30-40yr cycles from negative to positive phases. Both heading into negative phase which lead to cooling periods.
See you fool. I'm off this forum and the complete stupidity on it, from this topic to property. You fools are mostly negative clueless twits on here. I'll be retired at 45 with multiple properties, while you fools go on about the upcoming property crash
See ya Australia Property Forum.
Is that your way of saying that you don't want to debate the facts?
Why do you always call other people names like moron or fool or insane.
The islands are sinking - are they? have you got a link to some research that confirms that?
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Stop lying , please, for your own sake stop lying.
But I know you are just grasping at straws and literally making things up.
And it is obvious now that none of the warmists on this forum will actually spend the money to get the journal subscriptions that are necessary to keep up with the science. You literally do not read the science. You personally have no idea what is happening. And by your own admissions you just believe what you are fed. It really is pathetic to see grown men putting their faith in these stories. Science was supposed to set men free from religion, but it seems that it has failed with the catastrophic manmade global warming hoax.
Peter isn't lying, nor insane, he's just convinced, as I am, by the consensus amongst the scientific community about the reality of climate warming. Its not just a proposal, its a theory, as in the theory of evolution, the theory of gravity. The consensus is that certain (apart from people paid by the Kock brothers and others making money out of fossil fuels).
Btw, which journals do you suggest we buy that support your view? I'll check them out if you give me their names. Thanks.
The islands are sinking - are they? have you got a link to some research that confirms that?
Um, clearly providing links is pointless to you CO2 man-made global warming fools. The science is just too much for your idiotic brains to comprehend I see.
The link was provided. It's the BOM - research paper - page 10 - vertical movement. Marshall Islands are subsiding (vertical movement) of -0.5mm/yr, Samoa at 0.9mm/yr, Cook Islands subsiding at 0.7mm/yr etc. Sea-level rise is at net +3.8mm/yr, but that rate of sea-level rise is slowing, as per NOAA measurements. *****Pacific Country Report - Sea Level & Climate: ******
Keep up you man-made global warming alarm. It's amusing, and SO CUTE and NAIVE, despite the measured and observed evidence constantly disproving all the climate models.
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