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Forget negative gearing - it's the other tax breaks that cost us dearly
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there is no massive immigration ya duffer, just the same levels as usual

You only have to look at our population growth rates to see we have massive immigration. What is it now? 1.8%? With over half that now driven by immigration.
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peter fraser
2 Jan 2014, 12:46 PM
It's the borrowers choice.

Choice isn't a pancrea. With choice we have drunks running around at 3 am. With choice we have casinos and pokies. With choice we already slave sex workers. With some more choice we'll have legal child prostitution.

I doubt there is much choice in mundane man bombarded by the money driven media 24 hours a day. The common man is not smart enough to differentiate.

Moral values are arbitrary creations of time, they aren't written in stone for all to see.

Is the compulsory acquisition of 9% (soon to be more) of peoples wages to feed the banks, a choice?

99 out 100 ice peddlers agree on the choice of their customers.

If I remember correctly there used to be a law against usury?
Edited by Count du Monet, 2 Jan 2014, 01:49 PM.
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!!
You are no longer customer, you are property!!!

Don't be SAUCY with me Bernaisse
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2 Jan 2014, 01:15 PM
You only have to look at our population growth rates to see we have massive immigration. What is it now? 1.8%? With over half that now driven by immigration.
Yes, but you can manipulate immigration statistics. The number of citizenships granted per year has changed very little, but the number of temporary/permanent residents has roughly doubled. TRs/PRs still need to find somewhere to live, travel to work/school. PRs can purchase property. TRs can purchase established property with approval of the FIRB.

So someone like skamy can say it has hardly changed at all to troll themoops, and then point to the number of citizenships granted as proof, but the actual number of people who are becoming residents has increased substantially, which begs the question of what would happen if those people all suddenly decided en-masse to repatriate or immigrate elsewhere.
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2 Jan 2014, 07:25 PM
Yes, but you can manipulate immigration statistics. The number of citizenships granted per year has changed very little, but the number of temporary/permanent residents has roughly doubled. TRs/PRs still need to find somewhere to live, travel to work/school. PRs can purchase property. TRs can purchase established property with approval of the FIRB.

So someone like skamy can say it has hardly changed at all to troll themoops, and then point to the number of citizenships granted as proof, but the actual number of people who are becoming residents has increased substantially, which begs the question of what would happen if those people all suddenly decided en-masse to repatriate or immigrate elsewhere.
From 2006 the ABS changed their methods and approx 300,000 temp visa holders were added into our official pop growth numbers.
No one seems to get that our emigration is at an historical high and that our deaths double of the next few decades, driving our natural growth to perhaps zero.
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peter fraser
2 Jan 2014, 12:13 PM
It's less that too deep.

It's individually calibrated.
And why shouldn't people work this out for themselves. I've done things against the advice of others and it has paid off handsomely (not just property).

If other people want the government to hold their hand and wipe their bum then so be it, but I would rather assess and manage risk for myself.
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2 Jan 2014, 07:49 PM
From 2006 the ABS changed their methods and approx 300,000 temp visa holders were added into our official pop growth numbers.

Yes, we have more than 100,000 students who have immigrated here for 4 years.
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No one seems to get that our emigration is at an historical high and that our deaths double of the next few decades, driving our natural growth to perhaps zero.

Emigration is most definitely at a historic high, but I don't believe the death rate will double over the next few decades. Mortality has fallen each year for nearly two decades now. The boomers, and even the pre-boomers will live longer, require more care and higher taxes. Eventually this will push emigration even higher. I read an interesting article yesterday about western countries sending Alzheimers patients to Thailand for palliative care. The cost of quality care being too high for most, and the public system is already overloaded.

And still the property foolishness goes on. Oh well, you can't save people from themselves.
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