I'd have to agree with Count here. Never heard of fracking until the mid to late 90's.
Maybe experimentally this was being undertaken earlier or much earlier, but commercial exploitation occurred only a decade or so ago.
Well "Hydraulic fracturing" goes back to the 1930's. Until now there was no real payoff because the water gets stuck in pipes via the same reason stones can float on water!
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!! You are no longer customer, you are property!!!
I find fracking odd, it's been used since it's invention in 1947, in conventional oil fields, its only become this huge public story since the 1990's when it was first applied to shale.
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On this fracking thing, there is very little of it going on in Australia at the moment including the CSG extraction sector, that may change when we start to produce shale gas.
peter's a common name, lulldapull isn't, how many lulldapulls have you met ?
The posts match the countries lulldapull claims to have worked in.
It is an odd name.
There is a post saying he has migrated to Australia.
He doesn't seem to be denying it.
The posts all contain his charming style.
I don't know about you, but if someone thinks the CIA organized the video beheadings we have had, I think it affects the value of their judgement. But hey, it could just be me.
Only thing I can't work out is why he didn't create a new sock.
I'd have to agree with Count here. Never heard of fracking until the mid to late 90's.
Maybe experimentally this was being undertaken earlier or much earlier, but commercial exploitation occurred only a decade or so ago.
Well, I know that wikipedia is not necessarily the best source of info, but from the Wikipedia article:
Quote:
The first experimental use of hydraulic fracturing was in 1947, and the first commercially successful applications were in 1949. George P. Mitchell is considered by some the modern "father of fracking" because he successfully applied it to the Barnett Shale in the 1990s.[4] As of 2010, it was estimated that 60% of all new oil and gas wells worldwide were being hydraulically fractured.[5] As of 2012, 2.5 million hydraulic fracturing jobs have been performed on oil and gas wells worldwide, more than one million of them in the United States.[6][7]
If you go elsewhere in the literature you'll find lots of references to hydraulic fracturing being uses in Texas in the 1950s. You could argue that the modern technological variant wasn't used until the Barnett Shale in the 1990s, but then you could use the same argument to say that cars were not invented until the 1990s as well.
Bardon
31 Dec 2013, 12:44 PM
I am not aware of any quality issues with Syngas, doesn't mean that they don't exist either.
A friend of mine participated in an engineering review of a potential UCG plant many years ago. It failed for two main reasons:
a) Low energy content making for questionable viability. The economics may well have changed since then.
b) Very high levels of other pollutants (I seem to remember sulphur being high on the list but wouldn't swear to that) which added lots of expense to the flue gas treatment. This may be as much due to the nature of the coal under the proposed plant as anything else.
Disappointing really - I can check up on the exact details - might take a few days though.
If you go elsewhere in the literature you'll find lots of references to hydraulic fracturing being uses in Texas in the 1950s. You could argue that the modern technological variant wasn't used until the Barnett Shale in the 1990s, but then you could use the same argument to say that cars were not invented until the 1990s as well.
You seem to skip the part about "slick water" like it doesn't matter.
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!! You are no longer customer, you are property!!!
That's because it doesn't matter, except in as much as the result is improved.
"improved" isn't the word. You may as well say the motor car existed in the 17th century when somebody got gunpowder to drive a pump which drove a carriage. You could also claim the machine gun was invented in 1717 or so.
They key element that has occurred recently was the use of "slick water" chemicals.
At one point in time, i almost thought of becoming the next John Holmes. ...Goddamn there is good money in it! But a quick reality check dictated otherwise....oh well...."
"improved" isn't the word. You may as well say the motor car existed in the 17th century when somebody got gunpowder to drive a pump which drove a carriage. You could also claim the machine gun was invented in 1717 or so.
They key element that has occurred recently was the use of "slick water" chemicals.
that slick water/ cutting fluid has gotto be the dirtiest thing around Count. No doubt! That is part of the issue with contamination of the ground water tables.
The technologies on the market now are an alternative.
Or else we go down the same path as whats being done in some areas of NSW, where you pump out the water table continuously and scrub it and re-inject back down.
Its fukking expensive though, but a key element in environmental compliance.
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