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$5 GP Visit
Topic Started: 29 Dec 2013, 09:27 PM (3,765 Views)
Dr Hank
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about time

the amount of patients coming in with sniffles for their 'free' consultation is a waste

the fee should be increased to 20 bucks tho, and also apply to e.d depts, similar to nz

i know colleagues in the e.d who think that up to 30% of pts are non emergency cases

time to get real, health costs are spiralling up with the aging population

of course, pensioners are exempt as well as card holders, but they shouldnt be

it might mean one less pizza or pack of ciggies or tatts lotto ticket for the week
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Health insurance profits are soaring too Doc. Go Figure ...
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29 Dec 2013, 09:33 PM
Health insurance profits are soaring too Doc. Go Figure ...


without the private system, the whole thing would collapse

trouble is, health is a bottomless pit

more procedures

more things being done

people living longer

greater expectations

a small copayment of 20 bucks would be ideal and would stop people from using the e.d for their 'emergency' cough they have developed because they cant be arsed waiting or paying at the gps
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Isn't that what the Medicare levy is for?

All this would do is cause people to stop going to a gp, until they end up in hospital and cost heaps more.
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Kulganis
29 Dec 2013, 09:40 PM
Isn't that what the Medicare levy is for?

All this would do is cause people to stop going to a gp, until they end up in hospital and cost heaps more.

medicare levy and surcharge go nowhere near the cost of providing for health

r u saying people couldnt afford 5 bucks??

health costs are exploding...the amount is trivial, and should be increased IMO, but might stop some people from abusing the system just a little bit

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So penalise everyone for some minority taking the system for a ride?

Most people already pay an upfront fee at a gp consultation, it is only bulk-billed card holders that get free access and you want to extend the fee to said card holders.

People on commonwealth benefits barely get enough to live off of and you're going to ask for even more? Is the medicare levy going to be reduced because of the extra payment, or is this a new tax?

Of course the amount seems trivial to you, you're a doctor, I'm sure a lot of pensioners are wondering if they're going to be able to eat most nights or have to pay health costs. Not all of them are smokers either.

It sounds like you're looking to the American system as a shining example of how it should be, I hope that never comes to pass.

Why not introduce voluntary euthanasia, that would definitely reduce the burden on the health system, seeing as most of the burden comes from older people and is likely to get worse as our population ages.
Edited by Kulganis, 30 Dec 2013, 03:56 PM.
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Kulganis
29 Dec 2013, 09:40 PM
Isn't that what the Medicare levy is for?

All this would do is cause people to stop going to a gp, until they end up in hospital and cost heaps more.
you say that but i think it's bullshit really. just a lefty pressure tactic with no substance. if you're sick, $5 won't stop you.

hell i can't remember that last time it only cost me $5, i'd kill to only pay $5.
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Dr Hank
29 Dec 2013, 09:44 PM

medicare levy and surcharge go nowhere near the cost of providing for health

r u saying people couldnt afford 5 bucks??

health costs are exploding...the amount is trivial, and should be increased IMO, but might stop some people from abusing the system just a little bit
"health costs are exploding" Yet Health Insurance profits are soaring. Go figure (Brainwashed Excluded) :lol
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Kulganis
29 Dec 2013, 10:03 PM
People on commonwealth benefits barely get enough to live off of and you're going to ask for even more? Is the medicare levy going to be reduced because of the extra payment, or is this a new tax?
$5 won't break them, hell they can give up a carton 1 carton of beer for the year and it'd more than cover it.
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Kulganis
29 Dec 2013, 10:03 PM
So penalise everyone for some minority taking the system for a ride?

Most people already pay an upfront fee at a gp consultation, it is only bulk-billed card holders that get free access and you want to extend the fee to said card holders.

People on commonwealth benefits barely get enough to live off of and you're going to ask for even more?

Of course the amount seems trivial to you, you're a doctor, I'm sure a lot of pensioners are wondering if their going to be able to eat most nights or have to pay health costs. Not all of them are smokers either.

It sounds like you're looking to the American system as a shining example of how it should be, I hope that never comes to pass.

Why not introduce voluntary euthanasia, that would definitely reduce the burden on the health system, seeing as most of the burden comes from older people and is likely to get worse as our population ages.




5 bucks is hardly a penalty

also, health care card holders and pensioners are exempt

it a good start though

nz has a nominal fee for e.d....i wish we could do that for outpatients here, stop the no shows costing us all

if smthg is for 'free' it is abused

oh and i dont want to go down the american route, where they spend more per gdp for worse outcomes
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