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Chinese buyers tower over Australian real estate; 2014, the Bears have lost.
Topic Started: 20 Dec 2013, 09:17 AM (4,541 Views)
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Kulganis
20 Dec 2013, 01:30 PM
I generally don't like christmas carols (they're usually sung by seemingly tired people) but I'm sitting here listening to someone play them on a Yangqin (a traditional chinese dulcimer) over the road at the market and I'm really enjoying it. If they continue to bring such wonderful art forms, I wholeheartedly welcome our chinese brethren.
You're a typical chardonnay socialist. You'll give your country away for some stir fries and a song. :re:

But to be nicer the influences are quite nice, there's just too many of them, and we've got enough. We should reduce immigration to 80k immediately.
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Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
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20 Dec 2013, 11:20 AM
Kikes are technically white too Moopsy, but they tend to stick together.
One day suspension for use of ethnic slur.
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20 Dec 2013, 12:35 PM
Your attitude is plain gutless treason, and self interest dressed up as altruism. Go and print some more money why don't you you coward. :re:

Anyway, we already established about a week ago, that most of the bulls want as many Asians here as possible, so that whites are down to about 10%, you simply should be murdered pronto.
Wait. What? I'm meant to dress it up as altruism?

Nah. I've always been out to enjoy life, build good relationships no matter the race, and enjoy the finer things in life. Never disguised it as anything else.

Never really thought about importing more Asians as a means to do that, but hey, when I put IELTS 9 as a requirement on my job ads, they drop from over 100 applications to under 10. Maybe if I dropped that requirement, I can help more 457s get permanent residency. Thanks for the tip!
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Australians who are priced out of home ownership don’t care whether they were outbid by Chinese nationals or immigrants. The fact is that Chinese people are bidding up prices, and their presence is being noticed on an increasing scale. When you consider the size of China’s population and their increasing wealth, and their eagerness to buy up Australian real estate, it really is a frightening prospect.

Now, I’m not against Chinese people individually. I’ve met lot of Chinese people over the years and they’ve all been very nice and friendly. My problem is that they are distorting the property market and locking out would-be Australian homebuyers.

I am not even blaming the Chinese for doing this – it is entirely the fault of the government who is allowing this practice to take place on a daily basis. The government has turned its back on Australians in favour of anything that keeps the bubble going.

There are of course, other nationalities also buying Australian real estate but the Chinese are more noticeable, not only by their looks but by their sheer numbers. I guess it’s unfortunate for people of Chinese origin who have been here for generations – they are going to be lumped in with Chinese who have just stepped off the plane, but again, it is the fault of the government who has created this atmosphere of suspicion and disappointment when would-be home buyers are constantly outbid by people who look Chinese.
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20 Dec 2013, 01:47 PM
You're a typical chardonnay socialist. You'll give your country away for some stir fries and a song. :re:

But to be nicer the influences are quite nice, there's just too many of them, and we've got enough. We should reduce immigration to 80k immediately.
I don't like wine, so I don't think I'm typical and I don't see it as 'my' country, I may have been born here, but that was an accident of birth.
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- Our ridiculous planning and policy matrix has turned shelter into a financial plaything, causing panic for those who are not already in on the game. This is basically everybody born after 1975 (and a decent portion of those born 1970-1975), so a growing cohort, but currently only around a third of households. For those in the cohort with rich parents, they have a way out, but it’s pretty undignified and socially extremely regressive.

- There is a perception that the “authorities” put their own and the interests of the two-thirds of households that are in the game ahead of that one-third of households that is not in the game. What a surprise! In a happy coincidence, politicians can go for votes at the same time as protecting their own assets. Who would stand up for the dispossessed one-third? This compounds the feelings of hopelessness, resentment and unfairness.

- Instead of there being any real and widespread recognition of the plight of the 33%, they are continuously told that they are in fact feckless wastrels, the authors of their own misery, who need to just pawn the iPad, cut the lattes and go to live in Emu Plains for 10 years “like the rest of us did”. Cough, cough.

- There is no reliable information about the amount of foreign money that is coming into the market and the “authorities” appear very unmotivated (at best) to supply that information. Rumour races in to fill the vacuum and foreigners are the target. This is a pretty common phenomenon in times of national stress (which this housing situation is fast becoming – witness the recent capitulation of FHBs), often resulting in pogroms (see section 3 of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1923_Great_Kant%C5%8D_earthquake). By contrast, the strangled whining on comment forums is pretty tame, so far…

- It is well known that there is a lot of dirty money gushing out of China and our government appears determined to hoover up as much of it as possible.

- Fundamentally there is very little understanding of China in Australia. Again, rumour/speculation races in to fill the vacuum, making them seem all powerful, just like the Soviets did … until they didn’t.

What’s the answer? I think it has to be information. Let’s have it and move on – either to tighten regulations or to realise that the Chinese money thing is a load of baloney.

The slight concern I have is that I can’t really see any way of stopping somebody determined to park dirty money in Aussie property. There are simply too many ways of getting around the restrictions. So ultimately, it comes back to the “financial plaything” issue. This won’t change until we have our crash.
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20 Dec 2013, 02:48 PM
I don't like wine, so I don't think I'm typical and I don't see it as 'my' country, I may have been born here, but that was an accident of birth.
God help me, an open borders commie type.

I think I'll change my stance on gay marriage, you people are unbelievably dangerous.

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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
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Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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I don't think I ever stated I was an open borders type, if you had ever read anything I've ever said on this topic, you would know that I'm like you and believe that the current immigration numbers are too high, until our infrastructure problems are sorted out that is. I'm also not focussed on any one nationality. I live in Melbourne and can see multiculturalism working very well here, in fact it strengthens our society.

I'm not a nationalist, nor a protectionist, I'm definitely not a communist.

You could probably call me a Vulcan on this topic, their motto is 'Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations" The glory of
reality is in its infinite diversity and the ways our differences combine to create meaning and beauty.

But sure, continue on your unfounded little tirade, I find it funny.
Edited by Kulganis, 20 Dec 2013, 05:50 PM.
"If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear." - Gene Roddenberry

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themoops
20 Dec 2013, 12:35 PM
I very rarely see white women with Asians. I simply don't believe you either. I've seen two my whole life I think.
I've spotted more of them lately in inner Melbourne and let me tell you, the white women were not bad looking at all. I would have done them myself. Asian guys are starting to punch higher.

Trouble is, white men are often hopeless money managers and spend too much on pointless activities like drinking and vanity international travel. Well, with the cost of housing these days, you can't afford to be a hopeless money manager. You need to be very good to compete now.

You see the Asian-white couples in the cafes on the Saturday mornings and you know they were shagging the night before. At this stage I don't say it is purely down to their property ownership (assuming they do own) but it's only a matter of time. It has been said that:
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Where the pussy goes, the man follows.
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Where the money goes, the pussy follows.
The nexus between pussy and money is an intriguing one and as old as civilization itself.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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I've always said something similar:

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Money may make the world go around, but ultimately, sex makes money go around
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