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Xenophon wants to lure new car maker
Topic Started: 13 Dec 2013, 01:42 PM (1,877 Views)
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Pig Iron
13 Dec 2013, 03:33 PM
safety is the issue. by the time you make a car that passes on safety here you can't beat the $12,000 mark which already has imported cars in it.

personally i'd be interested in seeing us lure the fledgling private space industry here. in the middle of australia we have really predicable weather where they could launch about 330 days of the year, more than just about anywhere else. all we would need to do is cut the red tape for them which they currently get tied down with in the USA.
That would be really awesome, I would love to see Australia become a hub for something as interesting as that :)
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Shell puts last remaining Australian refinery on sale

ROYAL Dutch Shell is putting its Geelong refinery up for sale, threatening the jobs of more than 500 workers in a city unions say is "already on its knees". The oil giant says if it can't sell the refinery, it will consider turning it into a fuel import terminal to supply its local marketing and distribution business. The move is another blow to Australia's struggling refining industry, which cannot compete with giant refineries in Asia.

In 2011, Shell said it would close its only other refinery, at Clyde in Sydney, and convert it into an import terminal - a move that meant the loss of about 350 jobs.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/shell-puts-last-remaining-australian-refinery-on-sale/story-e6frg9df-1226612339158

It's a bleak future for refineries in Australia

There are two fundamental reasons for the gradual demise of the Australian refineries. The first and by far the most important issue is one of scale. On the world stage Australia is a small consumer of fuel and has always had a small refining capacity to match. Just one of the giant refineries in India or Singapore is big enough to produce double the output of our entire fleet of refineries.

Our biggest surviving refinery is Kwinana in Perth, which is rated at 138,000 barrels a day, while Asian refineries processing more than 400,000 barrels a day are not uncommon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/in-the-black/its-a-bleak-future-for-refineries-in-australia/story-e6frfinf-1226612843671
Pig Iron
13 Dec 2013, 03:33 PM
personally i'd be interested in seeing us lure the fledgling private space industry here. in the middle of australia we have really predicable weather where they could launch about 330 days of the year... [Dribble Dribble Dribble]
Good on ya timmy, hard at work finding solutions to Australia's economic woes. Perhaps an iron ore mine could be incorporated into your plan? May as well be since they will never build a launch site where you suggest anyway.

For your information, space vehicles reach satellite orbits more easily if launched near the equator in an easterly direction, as this maximizes use of our planets rotational speed (saves fuel and lots of money)
Such launches also give a good orientation for arriving at a geostationary orbit. (where most are deployed)
Edited by goldbug, 13 Dec 2013, 09:44 PM.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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can he lure an assassin. Please.
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Their should revive a decent Marque (Triumph maybe - worked for the bikes) and start exporting them to china. Make them top quality and they will sell. If the brits can do it - why the hell can't the Aussies?
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newjez
13 Dec 2013, 10:46 PM
Their should revive a decent Marque (Triumph maybe - worked for the bikes) and start exporting them to china. Make them top quality and they will sell. If the brits can do it - why the hell can't the Aussies?
Haven't seen a Triumph here yet.

Tonight as I walked home I did see a Maserati, 2 Lamborghinis and a truckload of mostly Chinese-made Mercs and BMWs in the next-door parking area.

$500M wouldn't even pay the advertising budget required to get attention here.
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miw
14 Dec 2013, 07:09 AM
Haven't seen a Triumph here yet.

Tonight as I walked home I did see a Maserati, 2 Lamborghinis and a truckload of mostly Chinese-made Mercs and BMWs in the next-door parking area.

$500M wouldn't even pay the advertising budget required to get attention here.
You wouldn't need to dominate the market, but oz manufacturing needs to export to survive. They can't compete on price. The Europeans know this. But they can compete on quality, or even perceived quality. Call it style if you like.
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14 Dec 2013, 08:16 AM
You wouldn't need to dominate the market, but oz manufacturing needs to export to survive. They can't compete on price. The Europeans know this. But they can compete on quality, or even perceived quality. Call it style if you like.
Actually Australia only needs to export enough to pay for things it can't feasibly produce itself.

Free trade is a dumb, dumb, really dumb idea that only serves the interests of international financial pirates.

I'd simply send free trade to hell in a hand basket because under no circumstances will "emerging economies" buy anything from us if they can produce it themselves. The only stuff they want is commodities. China doesn't buy iron ore from us because they like us, they buy it because there is only two countries that can export high quality iron ore in quantity....Australia and Brazil. In less than 50 years Australia will be stripped bare of quality iron ore. We shouldn't give the Chinese anymore iron ore than serves our own interests. We are virtually giving it away so the fat lady can dream she can turn the Pilbara into a sovereign state.

Money doesn't automatically mean quality of life when we've reduced our culture to a bomb crater.

The more money people have the cheaper they are on a personal level is a general rule.
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!!
You are no longer customer, you are property!!!

Don't be SAUCY with me Bernaisse
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goldbug
13 Dec 2013, 09:28 PM

Good on ya timmy, hard at work finding solutions to Australia's economic woes. Perhaps an iron ore mine could be incorporated into your plan?
as long as it's not a gold mine, because gold has crashed in value and no one can make money off it right now.
goldbug
13 Dec 2013, 09:28 PM
May as well be since they will never build a launch site where you suggest anyway.

For your information, space vehicles reach satellite orbits more easily if launched near the equator in an easterly direction, as this maximizes use of our planets rotational speed (saves fuel and lots of money)
Such launches also give a good orientation for arriving at a geostationary orbit. (where most are deployed)
if it was so important why has the vast majority of space launches occurred from cape canaveral which is 3165 km from the equator.

as usual you have not thought this through very well.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/launchingrockets/sites.html

Edited by Pig Iron, 14 Dec 2013, 12:30 PM.
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peter fraser
13 Dec 2013, 03:17 PM
Why not Chinese manufacturers and reduce the quality standards so that people can buy small town cars for about $7500.

Why not improve our economy so people can buy the car they want or need.
No limit to price.
You see that thinking has to change, cheaper is not better.
Expensive is not better.
Affordability is the key.
If every Australian could afford a Rolls Royce for $750,000 would that not be better than everyone aiming to be able to afford a $6,000 car???
Do you get it???
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