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Garbage Media & The Solution
Topic Started: 12 Dec 2013, 10:39 PM (3,150 Views)
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Does anyone actually sign up to these paywalls? I couldn't imagine paying money to read the Herald Sun given the crap I see when I flick through it in the lunch room at work.

The Age, Sydney Morning Herald one I'd already figured out cause a few other sites around the world had get arounds similar. Knew the put the headline into google to for the Murdoch ones, but didn't know the change the address to news and you can read anything. I tried it and it seems to work.

Seems to me most of these bigger papers won't last. While the smaller ones might make out ok because they have local content, but most local newsI can still read on the ABC or hear it on the local ABC radio. Not a lot of bias about it at a local level, just straight news.

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At Fairfax it's pretty simple. If you've used up your free articles for the month, switch to the privacy option on your browser. Every thing is free then.

At News Corp sites there's a little more effort. Can only see the first two paragraphs of what Hedley Thomas found when he dug through Clive Palmer's underwear drawer? Then take the article heading and put it into google. Article will come up free if you click through. Alternatively, want to read how dopey Callam Pickering can't tell the difference between a first home owners' grant and a first home builders' grant in Tasmania?

Take the url http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/house-price-growth-set-for-plateau-after-bright-year-in-the-big-city/story-fng7vg0p-1226775349628

And replace "theaustralian" with "news"


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The Punisher
12 Dec 2013, 10:39 PM
Does anyone actually sign up to these paywalls? I couldn't imagine paying money to read the Herald Sun given the crap I see when I flick through it in the lunch room at work.

The Age, Sydney Morning Herald one I'd already figured out cause a few other sites around the world had get arounds similar. Knew the put the headline into google to for the Murdoch ones, but didn't know the change the address to news and you can read anything. I tried it and it seems to work.

Seems to me most of these bigger papers won't last. While the smaller ones might make out ok because they have local content, but most local newsI can still read on the ABC or hear it on the local ABC radio. Not a lot of bias about it at a local level, just straight news.




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It is a two-edged sword. The lowering quality of news quality corresponds directly with the dilution of ad revenues over the past half-decade.

Newsrooms have been decimated of quality journalists as a result.

The only hope of broad improvement is that people like you support the news source of your choice by paying for the service you are being provided.

It's a pretty simple equation.
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There's such a thing as initiative though.

When I looked at that story about what people say about fast food on reddit, that's one of the laziest things I've ever seen.

What's next, a story about what people say on Aus Property Forum? lol
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12 Dec 2013, 11:21 PM
There's such a thing as initiative though.

When I looked at that story about what people say about fast food on reddit, that's one of the laziest things I've ever seen.

What's next, a story about what people say on Aus Property Forum? lol
Plummeting revenues mean little place for initiative.

You will have noticed the proliferation of 'top ten lists' lifted from places such as Buzzfeed, blatant click baiting and stories to the tune of 'what never to say to your friend about her weight'.

This crap is published because it is quick and cheap. Investigative journalism such as this is time consuming and expensive, so you don't see too much of it anymore.

Judging by how things are looking we can expect to be living in a world not unlike Idiocracywithin a decade or two . Take this content 'manifesto' from the folk who run content for the likes of Ninemsn - kind of says it all really:

TODAY, THE AUDIENCE IS IN CHARGE. WE DON’T WANT TO DOMINATE THE CONVERSATION LIKE THE EDITORS OF OLD.WE SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE AUSTRALIANS TALK, LAUGH AND TAKE PART. AND HOW DO WE DO IT? BY ASKING: WHAT’SUP? WHAT’SON? WHAT’S NEXT? HERE’S WHAT WE LOVE TO CREATE: The big news everyone is talking about right now. The videos and photos that get shared. Frog riding a snake, anyone? The TV apps that get passed around the pub in the State of Origin decider. Streaker from 16 different angles, anyone? The hashtag that knocks Justin Bieber off from the top of what’s trending on Twitter. #sorryjustin The stories that really matter AND the stories you’d never admit to reading. Yes, Kanye was late to Kim’s baby shower. The reports that begin “this news just in”. The stories that everyone’s got an opinion on – and which they will voice in the poll we just created. What starts as a quick fix and ends up an hour later with the entire office cooing over puppies in onesies. That next video you know you shouldn’t watch because you really should be focusing on work right now... but what the hell, it’s only another 2 minutes 32 seconds.
http://www.slideshare.net/mi9manifesto/mi9-manifesto-25011187

This is the kind of crap you get when marketers run the news.
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Bogan scum

they are toast and we will be better off for it.

if "the west" never printed another issue the IQ of WA would probably rise 20 points.
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12 Dec 2013, 11:59 PM
they are toast and we will be better off for it.

if "the west" never printed another issue the IQ of WA would probably rise 20 points.
You've got it backwards.

Those that will survive based on current trends are those that regurgitate 'content marketing', thus diluting the quality of news even further.

The issue is people (with exception) wont pay for quality journalism. That perception needs to be changed.



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Check out the Guardian online Australian version.
I subscribe to The Age because I'm happy to support them.
It's a sad indictment on our society that trash journalism is appealing to most people. When I scan the Murdoch press these days I've noticed that they no longer seem to cover politics since the election. Shameful.
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Dr Kinetoscope
12 Dec 2013, 11:48 PM
Plummeting revenues mean little place for initiative.

You will have noticed the proliferation of 'top ten lists' lifted from places such as Buzzfeed, blatant click baiting and stories to the tune of 'what never to say to your friend about her weight'.

This crap is published because it is quick and cheap. Investigative journalism such as this is time consuming and expensive, so you don't see too much of it anymore.

Judging by how things are looking we can expect to be living in a world not unlike Idiocracywithin a decade or two . Take this content 'manifesto' from the folk who run content for the likes of Ninemsn - kind of says it all really:

TODAY, THE AUDIENCE IS IN CHARGE. WE DON’T WANT TO DOMINATE THE CONVERSATION LIKE THE EDITORS OF OLD.WE SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE AUSTRALIANS TALK, LAUGH AND TAKE PART. AND HOW DO WE DO IT? BY ASKING: WHAT’SUP? WHAT’SON? WHAT’S NEXT? HERE’S WHAT WE LOVE TO CREATE: The big news everyone is talking about right now. The videos and photos that get shared. Frog riding a snake, anyone? The TV apps that get passed around the pub in the State of Origin decider. Streaker from 16 different angles, anyone? The hashtag that knocks Justin Bieber off from the top of what’s trending on Twitter. #sorryjustin The stories that really matter AND the stories you’d never admit to reading. Yes, Kanye was late to Kim’s baby shower. The reports that begin “this news just in”. The stories that everyone’s got an opinion on – and which they will voice in the poll we just created. What starts as a quick fix and ends up an hour later with the entire office cooing over puppies in onesies. That next video you know you shouldn’t watch because you really should be focusing on work right now... but what the hell, it’s only another 2 minutes 32 seconds.
http://www.slideshare.net/mi9manifesto/mi9-manifesto-25011187

This is the kind of crap you get when marketers run the news.
I don't believe it is as black and white as you state. Take for example my father, he has lived most his life in a rural community serviced by an independent newspaper (this is not in Australia) produced and published in the local regional city. He has been a subscribed for 50 years and reads it cover to cover everyday. It's a perfectly good paper with a good balance of local and world news and some 'human interest' - probably a bit old fashioned by Australian paper standards. His exposure to economic and world events is clouded/enhanced/shaped by the reporters and editors (who choose the syndicated content) for most of that time he has had little opportunity to expand his reading of events beyond that 1 source (I'm ignoring TV for these purposes - his access to TV is good but let's say for current purposes that the written word has more influence).

Although my father has had internet access for years it has been predominately used for email and business purposes - not general news reading until he got an iPad about 18 months ago. Now he has access to virtually all news content available in the world. With a myriad of views and opinions on each event and topic from traditional media sources, eye witness accounts and citizen journalism. This is arguably far superior to the old 1 paper in the town days. Journalists from a regional newspaper (or a big city paper come to that) aren't necessarily that smart and relying on their interpretation and distillation of events is a very narrow way gather knowledge.

I believe that for people that want to seek knowledge and learn, internet news sources are superior to the old ways even if we lose many traditionally paid journalists on the way. If some people just want to read about who Miranda Kerr might be dating that's up to them (personally I won't be seeking them out for conversation but good luck to them).
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Dr Kinetoscope
12 Dec 2013, 11:02 PM
It is a two-edged sword. The lowering quality of news quality corresponds directly with the dilution of ad revenues over the past half-decade.

Newsrooms have been decimated of quality journalists as a result.
Crap. The newsroom has been pumping out sanitized rubbish for 100 years. Mass media is and always has been in the pocket of big business and government interests. Look at all the money they waste going up in choppers to report on traffic conditions. "The SE Freeway is heavy this morning" Like every other morning at 8am DUH! Why not spend these funds on reporters investigating real news? Because they don't want to report real news, they just want to keep the current culture on track and herd the people in the directions that serve their masters.

Bid up those houses
Get behind the Iraq war
Mass immigration in Gooood for Austalia
Buy a new car you tight arse
Look Look! A kitten stuck up a tree in Bangladesh

It's all worthless drivel.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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The Punisher
12 Dec 2013, 10:39 PM
Does anyone actually sign up to these paywalls? I couldn't imagine paying money to read the Herald Sun .......
I use http://library.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/viewer.aspx

Todays paper in paper format from just about every paper in the world for FREE

The only details needed are a barcoad/library card number, but I have found any 8 digit number works including 12345678
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