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Jennifer Duke: Am I overreacting to personal comments made on Australian Property Forum?; Should APF censor personal comments made about property industry members, or public figures?
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Black_Dragon
12 Dec 2013, 02:15 PM
For what it is worth I think the forum needs to be moderated further to cover things such as looks and sexual orientation. Racism is moderated (as so it should be) so it is only one additional step. As an advertiser here I must say I do not feel comfortable to have our name associated with comments that are of a sexual/racial/physical manner. Agreed, good to have a mostly free forum. But sometimes it just does go too far.

I hope you will take these comments on board, Alex.
Thanks Louis. Homophobic comments also aren't permitted. It would be challenging to censor posts discussing a person's looks. I'm open to suggestions.
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Alex Barton
12 Dec 2013, 02:32 PM
Thanks Louis. Homophobic comments also aren't permitted. It would be challenging to censor posts discussing a person's looks. I'm open to suggestions.
The comment offending jen was lipstick lesbians are cute

What new rule covers it

not allowed to say someones cute ?

not allowed to say lesbian ?

Is this kindergarten ?
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12 Dec 2013, 02:15 PM
As an advertiser here I must say I do not feel comfortable to have our name associated with comments that are of a sexual/racial/physical manner.
Well the 'racial' part doesn't arise because racial comments are moderated. So you really mean you don't feel comfortable with your company being 'associated' with comments of a sexual/physical manner. Well, don't advertise your company in any newspapers. They sometimes veer into such territory. Be careful which TV shows you appear on; they do it too. You really are a bit fond of claiming the high ground sometimes, Louis.
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12 Dec 2013, 02:42 PM
Well the 'racial' part doesn't arise because racial comments are moderated. So you really mean you don't feel comfortable with your company being 'associated' with comments of a sexual/physical manner. Well, don't advertise your company in any newspapers. They sometimes veer into such territory. Be careful which TV shows you appear on; they do it too. You really are a bit fond of claiming the high ground sometimes, Louis.
Good point. I'm pretty sure I have seen Mr Dragon interviewed on Sunrise by Kochie, and I've seen his articles (sometimes with links to his site) in the MSM, but those same TV shows and MSM sites have also featured articles about gay AFL players coming out, or about the physical appearance of celebrities...
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12 Dec 2013, 12:15 PM
Us girls like to rate men's hotness too, even when their jobs have nothing to do with their looks!

Australia's Hottest Tradie - yum yum, Frank are you in here?
That's a link to the Sydney Morning Herald. I hope Mr Dragon makes sure never to have an article published there...
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From Jennifers article:

"This particular forum thread isn't the start of my anger
, but it's a pretty good representation of what we deal with on a daily basis"
*snip*

There you go.
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If you are offended it is your problem, and frankly lots of things offend lots of people.

I can walk into a bookshop and point out a number of books that I find very unattractive in what they say. But it doesn't occur to me to burn the bookshop down. If you don't like a book, read another book. If you start reading a book and you decide you don't like it, nobody is telling you to finish it.

To read a 600-page novel and then say that it has deeply offended you: well, you have done a lot of work to be offended.”

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Fair enough, each to their own.

For me, I see a difference between having a direct association with a derrogatory/sexual comment and something that happens in general media where our name does not have a direct association. I don't recall having a situation before where our name gets published in the middle of a thread where there is a total assassination taking place on someone's looks/ sexual orientation etc. I think if I had that situation in a more main stream masthead, I would also be concerned and make a comment.

This is a property forum and we are are mostly here to talk property. That's why I advertise here. Why does debate have to move to sexual orientation?
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mel
12 Dec 2013, 03:00 PM
From Jennifers article:

"This particular forum thread isn't the start of my anger
, but it's a pretty good representation of what we deal with on a daily basis"
*snip*

There you go.
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Black_Dragon
12 Dec 2013, 03:04 PM
Why does debate have to move to sexual orientation?
It was hardly a debate... one idiot (Dave) made an offhand comment that 'lesbians are cute' and he happened to post it under a photo of someone. That's about it.

Plus the thread is in the lounge rather than the main forum...
Edited by Shadow, 12 Dec 2013, 03:14 PM.
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2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Black_Dragon
12 Dec 2013, 03:04 PM
I don't recall having a situation before where our name gets published in the middle of a thread where there is a total assassination taking place on someone's looks/ sexual orientation etc.
Which comment was it that you considered to be a "total assassination"? The "lipstick lesbians are cute" comment?
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