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Jennifer Duke: Am I overreacting to personal comments made on Australian Property Forum?; Should APF censor personal comments made about property industry members, or public figures?
Topic Started: 12 Dec 2013, 11:30 AM (12,913 Views)
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12 Dec 2013, 12:07 PM
As far as commenting on peoples appearances, if you're in the public eye you're going to get it. Doesn't make it right, but that's the reality.
Yes, gossip magazines base their whole business around the fact that people like to talk about and read about other people's appearance. Jennifer seems confused that people would want to discuss the appearance of people in the real estate industry, but the industry somebody works in is pretty much irrelevant to whether or not somebody else is likely to comment on their appearance. As soon as you are in the public eye, you will get comments on all aspects of your life. Women's Weekly and the like devote the majority of their magazine content to discussing the appearance, cellulite, fatness, anorexia, pimples, bad hair day etc etc of pretty much anybody who is in the public eye. And these magazines are mostly bought by other women.

And of course, a person's sexuality is also something that is very much commented on and discussed in the media. If someone 'comes out' it becomes big news. If they date someone, especially someone of the same gender, it is big news. If they get married, divorced, have an affair, have a baby etc. this is also big news. Even on APF, there have been frequent discussions about the sexuality and gender of several members... :ni:

It's naive to expect anything different from the human race.
Edited by Shadow, 12 Dec 2013, 12:33 PM.
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2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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Shadow
12 Dec 2013, 12:29 PM
It's naive to expect anything different from the human race.
Margaret, for once you and I are in perfect harmony.
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt — Bertrand Russell
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Alex Barton
12 Dec 2013, 11:30 AM
How do APF members feel, should I censor personal comments made about Jennifer Duke, other property industry members, or public figures?
No, because where do you draw the line? Does it reach the point where we can't call a spruiker a spruiker?
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As you've pointed out Alex, the RE figures are free to take part in conversations and defend themselves if they wish. Louis Christopher is an example of this.
As far as talking about someone's appearance my advice is that you shouldn't attack someone for the way they were born.
That includes looks, skin colour, race etc.
Attacking someone's ideas or beliefs is Ok because that is something they have learned or adopted. That includes religion but sometimes sensitivity is a good idea.
Only a rat can win a rat race.

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There's really only 2 ways it can work:
1) All personal attacks, remarks, etc are moderated out; or
2) It all stays in (except for defamatory and/or illegal material, etc)

I'm happy with things the way they are.
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My photo, taken from my Twitter account or my LinkedIn or from somewhere, with my name and publication. Someone had then quoted the picture and underneath it they'd written: 'Lipstick lesbians are always cute.'
i'm going to agree with jennifer on this one. the comment is wrong, very wrong. lipstick lesbians aren't always cute, and jennifer isn't a lesbian. whether she's cute isn't the point. the comment is defamatory because it suggests she's a lesbian and some lesbians are cute, which is a lie and defamatory. just cos someone has their photo on a public site like twitter doesn't give other people the right to see it. photos of people are private and should be treated privately. i'm quite sure it's illegal to post a photo of anyone without their express permission.
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I'm happy with the way things are as well.
Maybe Moops could offer her a desensitisation session.
That reminds me of when one of my colleagues responded to a lesbian friend's email by telling her it was ok to be lesbian.
Unfortunately, he mistakenly sent it to our female CEO.
Her response was "I don't think that was meant for me".
He only told us about it a few months later when he felt confident he wasn't going to be sacked.
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12 Dec 2013, 01:09 PM
it's illegal to post a photo of anyone without their express permission
Better let the gossip mags know...

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1. Epic Fail! Steve Keen's Bad Calls and Predictions.
2. Residential property loans regulated by NCCP Act. Banks can't margin call unless borrower defaults.
3. Housing is second highest taxed sector of Australian Economy. Renters subsidised by highly taxed homeowners.
4. Ongoing improvement in housing affordability. Australian household formation faster than population growth since 1960s.
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12 Dec 2013, 01:09 PM
i'm going to agree with jennifer on this one. the comment is wrong, very wrong. lipstick lesbians aren't always cute, and jennifer isn't a lesbian.
I'm confused now. Is Jennifer a lesbian or not?
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt — Bertrand Russell
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12 Dec 2013, 01:09 PM
just cos someone has their photo on a public site like twitter doesn't give other people the right to see it. photos of people are private and should be treated privately. i'm quite sure it's illegal to post a photo of anyone without their express permission.
Are you out of your tiny little fuck'n mind??!!!

Your lack of use of capital letters suggests that you are Gen Y or younger enough to understand that this is NOT how it works!
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