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Holden is the past, not the future; Car companies lined their pockets with $19 billion of our money
Topic Started: 12 Dec 2013, 08:49 AM (3,745 Views)
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Dr Watson
12 Dec 2013, 08:49 AM

One of the few things that Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott used to agree on was that, if you wanted a prosperous modern economy, you had to have a car industry.
It was just another example of corporate welfare, good riddens.

The statements of the political leaders are typical of such, and the reason why a thinking person should not waste a minute of their life listening to their opinions.

The only reason we propped those 2 dogs up was image. We didn't want to look like we couldn't compete with better cheaper auto makers. They should have naturally gone the way of the Crysler Valiant plants, years ago.
Shadow was hopelessly wrong about the Gold Bull Market.
What else is he wrong about?
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Count du Monet
13 Dec 2013, 01:44 AM
You got some really offensive perspectives in your global view.


I am what I am. I find a lot of people have offensive world views.

Like bulls who think they're Henry Ford. :oo:


Dr Watson
13 Dec 2013, 07:26 AM
That's their problem. If you or I lost our jobs, nobody would express such concern for us. The government should not elevate one group of workers to the status of protected species.
Damned straight.

Now that's offensive.

Some people think they're more Australian than others, like the bulls.
Edited by themoops, 13 Dec 2013, 09:10 AM.
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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
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13 Dec 2013, 07:38 AM
It was just another example of corporate welfare, good riddens.

A society is built on the concept of welfare. If you say get rid of it, then you are saying get rid of society and you've succumbed to the philosophy of Leo Strauss.

A society will engage in activities that aren't purely mechanistic in result..............it's called culture. And it is required for a society to function.

Even the great cities of the the Roman Empire had the dole. But they didn't do it for charity. It's purpose was to keep the itinerant labor population from deserting the cities since rural poverty offers benefits over urban poverty. This happened in the Western part of the Empire at the very end and it was part of the collapse. The city of Rome itself went from a million in the 2nd century AD to a nadir of 30,000 in the 6th century.

Our car market is being invaded from nations like Korea and Thailand who don't play by the rules. They aren't here to sell cars, they want our resources and would prefer to own them.

You're just saying, "lay down and die".

The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!!
You are no longer customer, you are property!!!

Don't be SAUCY with me Bernaisse
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13 Dec 2013, 10:17 AM
A society is built on the concept of welfare.
Corporate welfare?
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt — Bertrand Russell
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13 Dec 2013, 10:28 AM
Corporate welfare?
When hasn't it been?

Better Holden than finance. At least Holden can produce something useful.

Goldman Sachs loves socialist money, especially when it can get its hands on it.
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!!
You are no longer customer, you are property!!!

Don't be SAUCY with me Bernaisse
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13 Dec 2013, 10:17 AM
It's purpose was to keep the itinerant labor population from deserting the cities since rural poverty offers benefits over urban poverty. This happened in the Western part of the Empire at the very end and it was part of the collapse. The city of Rome itself went from a million in the 2nd century AD to a nadir of 30,000 in the 6th century.

Our car market is being invaded from nations like Korea and Thailand who don't play by the rules. They aren't here to sell cars, they want our resources and would prefer to own them.

You're just saying, "lay down and die".
Unlike Roman times there's nowhere for people to go.

If we don't get this big GFC2 we will simply end up with a big underclass.

Our culture is no longer holden cars and good music, and a sense of solidarity, they killed music about 15 years ago, replaced it with crappy pop and rap crap.

Our culture is computer games, the internet, TV and movies, food and consumption, and shallow relationships primarily based on convenience and what your friends and partners can do for you.

Society is dead.

Thatcher was right, there is no society, just people.

Because we had a chance to save society in the 90s, but people chose high house prices and selfishness, and on the left they chose piety, self hatred and sanctimoniousness(and high house prices).

The only places left to flee are smallish towns like Adelaide, and the middle and south of America. And America is only worth it if you've got a degree in something like IT.

If we keep going it should only be a decade or two until they are ruined as well.

We're saying "lay down and die", because those Holden workers weren't there when others were offshored, and no doubt half of them have ips themselves, and want to see property to the moon.

But don't shoot the messenger, I voted SPP.

And you know how well that went. :re:

We're simply paying for decisions made in the 90s.

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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
See here
Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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themoops
13 Dec 2013, 11:13 AM

If we don't get this big GFC2 we will simply end up with a big underclass.
a GFC2 will create a large under class of which you will be part of
I am the love child of Tony Abbott and Pauline Hanson
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13 Dec 2013, 11:13 AM

Thatcher was right, there is no society, just people.
That's not true because maintenance of a technically sophisticated culture is dependent on society. Otherwise we'd be back in the caves and maybe not even that, because even a good cave requires society.
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!!
You are no longer customer, you are property!!!

Don't be SAUCY with me Bernaisse
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13 Dec 2013, 11:15 AM
a GFC2 will create a large under class of which you will be part of
:lol

Speak for yourself, mining boy.
Count du Monet
13 Dec 2013, 11:21 AM
That's not true because maintenance of a technically sophisticated culture is dependent on society. Otherwise we'd be back in the caves and maybe not even that, because even a good cave requires society.
It's more dependent on money. That we've had plenty of.

We're simply animals fucking each other over to be top dog.

Boomers didn't really have to fight, as top dog status was awarded to almost everybody because housing was so cheap.

America has 50million or whatever people on food stamps. No one gives a fuck.

GFC2 or not a dystopia will arrive.

America can print money so can keep those 50m on food stamps relatively subdued.

If we end up like that we'll be like Mexico or any number of 3rd world countries. They seem to be the majority of countries. Where it's simply about how much money you've got. If you ain't got it, you may as well be dead.

Would you really call some place like Mexico a society?
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Frank Castle is a liar and a criminal. He will often deliberately take people out of context and use straw man arguments.
Frank finally and unintentionally gives it up and admits he got where he is, primarily via dumb luck!
See here
Property will be 50-70% off by 2016.
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13 Dec 2013, 12:02 PM


We're simply animals fucking each other over to be top dog.





Our modern Western technically advanced society was a product of the non-conformist Christians (Baptists, Methodists, etc). If anything they had an ineradicably strong social ethic. They seriously believe telling lies was wrong. They were the sort of people you could give a fortune in money for safe keeping and it remained safe.

There will always be a bigger dog waiting around the corner no matter how good you think you are.

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Boomers didn't really have to fight, as top dog status was awarded to almost everybody because housing was so cheap.


I didn't know boomers were buying houses in 1950 when you could acquire one for a thousand pounds.

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