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Breaking Announcement: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia by 2017
Topic Started: 11 Dec 2013, 02:50 PM (5,970 Views)
jesusjones
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Why so much (3 yrs)notice ? The company (government)
Will loose so much more money as employees
won't give a sh*t!! They will all be milking
thier sick/carer days, become more lithagic
at work and unproductive.

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11 Dec 2013, 08:50 PM
Yeah well that's it. A 335 bmw is probably the same as a sv6 here.

Yeah I remember the Soarer, cool car. Toyota know what they're doing, although their corollas have been little pussy mobiles for a long time. They used to be fairly bad ass in the late 80s early 90s.
between you and me a friend of a friend actually purchased a bona fide bullet proof/armored euro trash sedan for 4K plus on road costs not too long ago. Seriously, I think we would both be surprised if we could be bothered looking into what's possible with imports.
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mel
11 Dec 2013, 08:13 PM
hey, why the hell not :) stranger things have happened over the years. Once upon a time you could have had one of these (the post 1991 model) for a fist full of dollars (think 15K) while the local Lexus dealer sold the equivalent car (with an inferior engine) for 200K AUD. I honestly haven't looked at imports for a long time, but i would be willing to bet my balls there is great value there somewhere.

Fun fact: Years ago the law stated (it might still be the same for all i know) that anyone who 'lived' in Japan for at least 12 months could bring over any car they chose as a personal import and register it as if it was a local produced car. Between you and me there have been models which would have been worth taking 12 months off work in Australia to live in Japan, bring back home and make out like a bandit on the sale of the registered car.
Funnily enough I still have a 91 V8 Soarer which never misses a beat. Lovely to drive and is devalued to zero. I'm planning of changing it as there's not much room for two kids. The only things I can find that I like more are the Mercedes CLS500 and Jaguar XF. It cost me $17,000 ten years ago. What great value.

You can still import any car from any country you've lived in if you can prove you've owned it for a year. Look at the prices of used luxury cars in the UK compared to here. It will make you cry.
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jesusjones
11 Dec 2013, 09:05 PM
Why so much (3 yrs)notice ? The company (government)
Will loose so much more money as employees
won't give a sh*t!! They will all be milking
thier sick/carer days, become more lithagic
at work and unproductive.

Abbott will just have to be tough on them.

If Abbott wants to remain PM he needs to live up to his ideals.

If a white collar worker loses his job no one gives a fuck, they say, suck shit, now you can go and work at maccas. But when a blue collar workers loses his job it's a national emergency. People are sick and tired of this hypocrisy. Abbott needs to say, go to hell. We need some Thatcherism now more than ever, and Abbott needs to be the guy to do it.

I have no doubt what so ever that there are plenty of jobs, in Adelaide or around the country, that these people can end up transferring to.

It's quite disgusting that Abbott should even give reverance to these fucken losers. No doubt a lot of these people are buying coles panadols and have investment properties. We should probably change democracy to give governments 10 year dictatorships.
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Agree why do these workers seem more
Precious? Should be treated better? Is it because its
an iconic Aussie company? If I got laid
off tomorrow after 8yrs loyalty no one would
Give a shit. So much for the iconic Aussie
Car also? Most Aussies I know own Japanese cars..
They should give these workers a years
Notice max then spend the tax payers money allocated
For these car companies on research for new technology etc. if quantas
doesn't start getting it together they'll be going
under next...
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Moops I think blue and white collar jobs both deserve equal respect. Do we want to end up like America where everyone aspires for a white collar job for their kids so they can join the Upper Middle Class. You've got a whole generation where almost half of them went on to get Bachelors or even graduate degrees, and now they find there simply aren't enough nice white collar career jobs to go around.
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11 Dec 2013, 10:00 PM
Moops I think blue and white collar jobs both deserve equal respect. Do we want to end up like America where everyone aspires for a white collar job for their kids so they can join the Upper Middle Class. You've got a whole generation where almost half of them went on to get Bachelors or even graduate degrees, and now they find there simply aren't enough nice white collar career jobs to go around.
Shovelling shit ain't fun - But there can be money in it? (When everyone else gets too flash [or welfare addicted] ta shovel shit I guess ... :re: )
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Personally, I hope these companies close up and go away ASAP. I hope it's as bad as the worst predictions, if not worse.

Unemployment will go up and then it will be possible for me to buy a house in an Australian depression because I have a safe job.

Perhaps that would crowd out the Chinese wall of money and property stimulating policies heading our way.

At the moment it's hopeless even with a job, unless i want to be a debt slave for life.

As a bonus, this country both needs and deserves a severe contraction. We have become too complacent. We vote like idiots for idiots and we are probably equal with our leaders in how little we care about ourselves. This is reflected by our inability to get meaningfully angry about anything meaningful.

Go Tony! Keep up the good work! You’re my only hope of ever buying a house! Brink on the depression, now!
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There are huge national security implications if the car industry is gone from Australia. However, the current subsidy regime isn’t working, and Abbott’s government has a chance to fix it once and for all.

National security is not just about ‘tanks and missiles’. Most of Australia’s population and wealth resides in the cities, and feeding the cities requires food to be transported from the countryside. Australia used to be fuel sufficient, but the increase in population the closure of the oil refineries made us dependent on refined oil import. A prolonged disruption in fuel supply import will be catastrophic for Australia as it will disrupt the ability to bring food to the city.

Oil tankers are easy target for pirates, and one was recently ‘hijacked’ it’s way to Singapore in he Indian ocean a few month earlier. If any of the SE Asian countries become a failed state, it will become an ideal operating base for pirates. Indonesia is the biggest strategic threat to Australia not become it may invade us, but because it may disintegrate.

In the event of a prolonged oil supply disruption, the concentration of wealth in the city means most of the fuel will be consumed there while the countryside become decimated. What follows is rationing,fuel riots, and social disintegration. Australia have an abundance of gas, coal, and have the ability to produce bio fuel. Unfortunately, most of our transportation doesn’t use them.

Our former PM understands the issue. John Howard didn’t introduce the 10% alcohol mandate purely as a bribe to QLD. When Rudd announced his bailout for Holden during GFC, part of the condition is to produce ‘hybrid’ or electric vehicles. That unfortunately didn’t come through as foreign car manufacturers have their own agenda.

What Australia need, for its food security and social cohesion, is a local car maker producing cars which runs gas/electric/biofuel and can survive the harsh outback. The number of cars produced doesn’t have to be huge, it is an insurance policy. Instead of spending more on bribing Holden, the 500 million dollars can be used for that purpose.

Whether the Abbott government will seize the opportunity is another matter all together.
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themoops
11 Dec 2013, 07:44 PM
When is Abbott going to cut the shit out of the public service so we can do stuff like that?

Maybe I'm just impatient.

See, maybe Abbott is going to do all this by stealth, slowly but surely, but all the while putting the blame on Labor. :pop:

One of these will do me. I don't ask for much.

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White is such as boring color...

Yeah it reflects the heat so friggin what ...

First we had Mitsibishi go down the gurgles few yrs ago, now it's Holden.
Well, Holden has failed to deliver, thats the reality these handouts have been bullshit really .its been said the high Oz $ hasn't been helping in manufacturing in recent yrs ...

Now the next to go is Ford..

Too much choice out there really... Too much other competition, really ...

In terms of manufacturing oz is in the poo....

Sad really.
Makes me wonder what jobs will exist in generations to come.
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