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Australia's five tidal waves of unemployment; No peace-time Prime Minister in Australia’s history has faced the challenge now facing Tony Abbott
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Elastic
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I think the problem for many blue collar workers and particularly those in the auto industry is that many of them have been employed there for a large number of years and the dearth of manufacturing means that suitable replacement jobs may not be available.
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10 Dec 2013, 01:40 PM
this is an important fact the bears don't seem to understand.

i know lots of people who were made redundant in the gfc and it ended up being the best move that could have happened to them. the bears always assume these redundancies are a disaster, but for everyone who struggles there's always others who actually do very well out of the situation.
I had lunch with a mate yesterday who was made redundant a week ago and got a $130k payout.
He was back in Brissy to secure a position doing the same job with an offshoot of the same firm. :wak:
As soon as he kicks his tenant out of his PPOR here, he'll start back and rent what was his home of the last 18 mths back out again.
To top it off, his "old" employer who just gave him redundancy, said he can probably start back again in a year with them doing his old job.

I wonder if he can swing a second redundancy with his new employer :to:
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Frank Castle
10 Dec 2013, 04:26 PM
I had lunch with a mate yesterday who was made redundant a week ago and got a $130k payout.
He was back in Brissy to secure a position doing the same job with an offshoot of the same firm. :wak:
As soon as he kicks his tenant out of his PPOR here, he'll start back and rent what was his home of the last 18 mths back out again.
To top it off, his "old" employer who just gave him redundancy, said he can probably start back again in a year with them doing his old job.

I wonder if he can swing a second redundancy with his new employer :to:
It can work out well. My BIL still regrets not taking redundancy when it was offered, as he says his department has gone to shit afterwards. A lot depends on your position in life, and how much they offer, and where there is any work around. It's also probably good to go early as was my case, rather than later. I also think you can't be complacent and treat it like a holiday. You need to act as soon as you hear the rumor. I started making calls as soon as I got a wiff of it, and I was back in a job on more money in less than a month.

But that is not the case for everyone, especially if you work at a job which is not transferable, or you live in a region which is dominated by one employer who collapses. It can be the end of the line for some.
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Catweasel say it a fascinate to watch exchange of a little the ideas.

But can it the imagine,

it work for a Qantas or a Holden or a Tinkler,

and its life the be like set of Truman Show,

where it have its mates, its safety harness, and a remuneration that a increase yoy,

so it can pay its mortgage,

and take a little ones to a Thailand or a Vietnam,

or even a ski in Japan.

Its training is a provided by its immediate master,

so it learning the skills,

which may be the transfer.

Where the big problem is mouse is mentally seduced by its security,

and it may not the have emotional and mental the strength for a reincarnation.

It may have the jet ski, white picket, beer belly, and flat the screen.

But it now be risk of dump on desert island,

when master promise the neverending riches.
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Elastic
10 Dec 2013, 03:43 PM
I think the problem for many blue collar workers and particularly those in the auto industry is that many of them have been employed there for a large number of years and the dearth of manufacturing means that suitable replacement jobs may not be available.
Same thing happened to my mate, he got laid
off by a large company 2 months ago, got a
Huge pay out. Then they told him start your own
Company and work for us from home and they are
Paying him $25/hr more...??

He's funny he was telling me he's loving it...getting up late,
do a bit of work, Watch some videos on youporn, have a few
long necks do a little more work etc..


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jesusjones
10 Dec 2013, 06:03 PM
Same thing happened to my mate, he got laid
off by a large company 2 months ago, got a
Huge pay out. Then they told him start your own
Company and work for us from home and they are
Paying him $25/hr more...??

He's funny he was telling me he's loving it...getting up late,
do a bit of work, Watch some videos on youporn, have a few
long necks do a little more work etc..

Catweasel say crikey.

It might be one of a friends of our Frankie.

It like a blue collars is a gifted with some the mystical powers.
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As Hannah Arendt pointed out the progress of all totalitarian moments depends on the dismantling of society. To dismantle any groupings that stand in the way of its assumption of total power. And then convince the populace that this is the new normal. When the Nazis took power, they didn't augment society and legal structures, they progressively sought their destruction and removal. Once this was achieved there was nothing to stand in the way of extermination camps as being perceived as "normal".

Arendt's view contradicts the concept that there is innate goodness in humankind. What we call morality is an arbitrary value that rests on long held traditions. The Totalitarian state must destroy this as its first priority.
Edited by Count du Monet, 11 Dec 2013, 12:34 AM.
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!!
You are no longer customer, you are property!!!

Don't be SAUCY with me Bernaisse
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jesusjones
10 Dec 2013, 06:03 PM
Same thing happened to my mate, he got laid
off by a large company 2 months ago, got a
Huge pay out. Then they told him start your own
Company and work for us from home and they are
Paying him $25/hr more...??

He's funny he was telling me he's loving it...getting up late,
do a bit of work, Watch some videos on youporn, have a few
long necks do a little more work etc..

Fine until you die of a heart attack 20 years early.
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Veritas
10 Dec 2013, 12:03 PM
Its not just mining and resources.

Australia is long overdue a recession.
Australia has had a recession. It is nuts to define it as negative GDP growth for two quarters when population growth is occurring, the same way it's nuts to look at house prices in nominal terms (and there are bulls and bears responsible for this mistake too on here).

GDP per capita is the only way to compare that makes sense. Suppose I said that everyone in your department of ten was to share from a 20 per cent increase in the salary budget. And then I said the only catch is that there were going to be fifteen people sharing it. Would you still celebrate your rise?

We are less due a recession now than at any time in the last five years
themoops
9 Dec 2013, 09:02 PM
It wouldn't surprise me. Scares you hey. It's in a Murdoch rag too. The likes of which you support.
Hey Moopy, me old fruit. Is that thing in your signature about property being off by 2016 a genuine belief or just there to make you look like a nutter. If it's real I'd love to have a wager on it with you?
Count du Monet
10 Dec 2013, 06:31 PM
As Hannah Arendt pointed out the progress of all totalitarian moments depends on the dismantling of society. To dismantle any groupings that stand in the way of its assumption of total power. And then convince the populace that this is the new normal. When the Nazis took power, they didn't augment society and legal structures, they progressively sort their destruction and removal. Once this was achieved there was nothing to stand in the way of extermination camps as being perceived as "normal".

Arendt's view contradicts the concept that there is innate goodness in humankind. What we call morality is an arbitrary value that rests on long held traditions. The Totalitarian state must destroy this as its first priority.
If you are trying to be clever it's "sought" not "sort"
Edited by Mallard, 10 Dec 2013, 08:34 PM.
Collecting desperation.
Ex-Bp Golly April 2 2015. "I see with a slight overshoot -70% [fall in Sydney house prices] as being well within possibility"
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Mallard
10 Dec 2013, 08:25 PM

If you are trying to be clever it's "sought" not "sort"
I thought there was something wrong there? Thanks.
Edited by Count du Monet, 11 Dec 2013, 08:26 AM.
The next trick of our glorious banks will be to charge us a fee for using net bank!!!
You are no longer customer, you are property!!!

Don't be SAUCY with me Bernaisse
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